efiscompmon
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- Jun 24, 2002
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Officially, the profile is to climb at 290/.74 in speed mode.how are the CRJ pilots (especially Pinnacle) taught to climb, especially to climb after transitioning over to Mach?
Operationally, the practice is to switch to vertical speed mod in the mid-teens to avoid speed mode's pitch changes while climbing. Because there is no autothrottle, it is common for climb thrust to decay and only be advanced every 5000 feet or so--that new issue of Stuff can be quite compelling. So we do vertical speed "for the passengers comfort" and now add the extra variable of watching AS in addition to the swimsuit models on the way up. Not the published procedure, but I have flown with two check airmen, both who held the company equivalent of Assistant Chief Pilot, and that's how they flew it and that's what they taught.
Again, high-altitude stall recovery is not part of the curriculum. I have had the pusher activate in the sim at low altitude and the effect is quite dramatic (and violent!) Even trying to be hands-off and of course, the smooth operator that I am (choke), it went into an oscillation that was very difficult to control. I would not care to speculate on its handling characteristics at FL410--hand flown by any pilot regarless of experience. If it started to porpoise as a result, I don't think we can blame the engines for flaming out up there.If the CRJ engines are prone to quit in a high altitude low speed situation, the Feds need to ground the airplane.
It looks like the cowboy culture of line standards and the "never compromise savings" (props to aaron for that one) attitude of management has allowed the unspeakable to happen finally. While it is luck that there were no pax on board, it is unfortunate for everyone that this will get swept under the rug without a public hearing by the NTSB because of the very lack of passengers. Senior dirtbags, I mean management, will point the finger at the crew while quietly disparaging their experience level--conveniently forgetting that they hired and trained them. It's already begun.
THis accident is more than a stall/flameout/failure to relight. It's time that the systemic problems that bred this tragedy are brought to light and corrected.