Pinnacle is Going Bye Bye!

[WalterSobchak]

What routes did PNCL fly the -900 on?

As far as the whole "Pinnacle own's the -900's" thing goes....sure, but I bet they could sell and transfer those suckers to whoever gets that flying in a heartbeat. All ya gotta change is the "operated by:" decal on the nose.

Look for this flying to go to SkyWest or maybe, just maybe, ASA...

 

[wms]

ASA was building a -900 program until they went to SKYW. When BH got here he got it spooled-up again. If things happen it'll happen fast, and he wants us to be able to move quickly.

 

[boknowsASA]

This is off DLNET:

We have notified Pinnacle Airlines of our election to terminate its Delta Connection contract effective July 31 because of performance. We expect the operational pull down to be orderly and have minimal impact to our customers.
“Our customers rely on Delta and Delta Connection carriers for outstanding service, and we will continue to insist on that level of performance from our business partners,” said Don Bornhorst, s.v.p.-Delta Connection. “Pinnacle’s operational performance has fallen below minimum levels required under the contract. Today, it’s more important than ever that Delta and its Delta Connection partners meet operational and customer service levels.”
We have an agreement with Pinnacle to operate 16 CRJ-900 aircraft, nine of which are in service. We’ll choose another connection carrier to operate the former Pinnacle routes.
Pinnacle has operated as a Delta Connection carrier since December 2007.

 

[boknowsASA]

Taken from DLNET: 9E operated to these locations while in ATL some of them they dont operate to anymore.

BHM,BUF,CLT,CZM,GSP,HOU,HSV,IAD,IAH,MCI,MEM,MKE,PIT,PLS,RIC,SAT,STX,TLH.

 

[CFI2766]

Several thoughts here:

1) Isn't there a paragraph in the ASA (pilot) contract that stipulates that the 70 and the 90 will pay the same?

2) The first (and hopefully last) ASA punk that wears his/her epaulets backwards because they drive 'The 9' should get a solid a$$ whoooopin.

3) Waaay to early to say where this flying will go. If it gets replaced, at all.

4) Most importantly, it's extremely poor form to gloat over another pilot's misfortune. This can, and probably will, be a sandwich that we will all take a bite out of at some point.

 

[USCtrojan]

Several thoughts here:

1) Isn't there a paragraph in the ASA (pilot) contract that stipulates that the 70 and the 90 will pay the same?

2) The first (and hopefully last) ASA punk that wears his/her epaulets backwards because they drive 'The 9' should get a solid a$$ whoooopin.

3) Waaay to early to say where this flying will go. If it gets replaced, at all.

4) Most importantly, it's extremely poor form to gloat over another pilot's misfortune. This can, and probably will, be a sandwich that we will all take a bite out of at some point.

1) The payrates in the Contract set forth are for Aircraft up to 76 seats. So yes, if ASA were to operate 900's then the rates for the 700/900 remain the same.

Trojan

 

[Redan]

What routes did PNCL fly the -900 on?

As far as the whole "Pinnacle own's the -900's" thing goes....sure, but I bet they could sell and transfer those suckers to whoever gets that flying in a heartbeat. All ya gotta change is the "operated by:" decal on the nose.

Look for this flying to go to SkyWest or maybe, just maybe, ASA...

I have to agree. Those aircraft could have their leases transferred so fast it would make you dizzy. Very much like someone assuming someone else's auto lease.

 

[sweptback]

As an ASA MEC insider....you are starting to show your true colors.....To bad that DAL interview didn't work out too well for you.....

It cracks me up that you think you know who I am, but you really have no clue.

 

[PCL_128]

Because they were IMPOSED by PCL management.

Under the terms of the contract, the rate was REQUIRED to be negotiated BEFORE the aircraft could be flown. PCL wanted existing 50-seat rates, the MEC refused, so PCL management just deliberately violated the contract and put them on anyway.

There was a grievance over it, the pilots won and then, just like the Colgan grievance (which the PCL MEC also won), the company just ignored it and is appealing the ruling while continuing to do what they want.

PCL management has always pretty much done whatever they want, regardless of who it affects or how, and will only do the right thing when forced by the legal system.

You're a little off on this one. Yes, Pinnacle management originally imposed rates (only for Captains) on the -900s, but that ended two months ago when the arbitrator issued his ruling on new payrates. The company hasn't violated that ruling. They've been paying the arbitrated rates.

As for why they're so low, they actually aren't. They're industry average.

 

[PCL_128]

Hopefully these 900s are replaced by mainline planes.

Thank God somebody said it.