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PNCL's performance numbers per the DCI chart that we have on our company intranet site are consistently at or near the bottom. ASA as of late with the addition of ACARS and Brad Holt(kickin a$$ and making things finally run smoother) has been near the middle. We seem to be right inline with Mother D and on most days we are ahead.

We will never be able to pass Republic, XJet and Skywest as the bulk of our flying is done from the worlds busiest airport but I'd say our numbers are pretty good now and getting better all the time.

Of course who knows, we may be the next airlline to get the cut from the DCI portfolio...but I kinda doubt it.


Doesn't ASA (SkyWest Inc.) own the gates in ATL? If so, then I would imagine ASA is very safe.
 
I would guess those 90's are coming to ASA. ASA also has an overwater exemption...Pinnacle does not. I have a feeling destinations in the Carribbean will grow out of ATL....

Trojan
Although I hear that Skywest now has the overwater exemption so they could easily get those 900's and fly them South of ATL. I would like to see 900's at ASA but I'm thinking not.
 
Although I hear that Skywest now has the overwater exemption so they could easily get those 900's and fly them South of ATL. I would like to see 900's at ASA but I'm thinking not.

I talked to Brad Holt about allocation of flying. He didn't divulge much but basically said that wherever networks are established (Maint, flow of aircraft, etc), those aircraft would be assigned to the most efficient. Now I don't necessarily disagree with you concerning SkyWest, but ASA is based and operates out of ATL, where all of PNCL flying is going on. These aircraft will fly in our system, not West (for now). I believe they will come to ASA, especially if we can keep up our numbers through the Summer with higher capacity.

Trojan
 
I'm pretty sure these planes are owned by 9E. They're not coming to ASA or SKYW.
 
Who ever hired for "potential growth"? But that has been what Comair management has been saying for months now. I personally ask the Comair CEO why we are hiring so much during this downward cycle in the industry and all he would say was that it was for "growth". Did not say where or when it is coming but I am finally optimistic for Comair.

There is no growth. They take 50s away and give you 70s/90s. That is not growth it's replacements.
 
But Skywest also has a base in ATL where PNCL flying is going on.......the only difference being, they already fly 900's out of said base.
 
No kidding... PCL Mgt has brought this on them selves. If the pilot group were motivated and happy their #s wouldn't be so bad!

You've got that right my brother. What goes around comes around. Unfortunately when this happens there's always collateral damage. In this case it's going to leave a lot of good pilots on the street. Fu**** managers.
 
But Skywest also has a base in ATL where PNCL flying is going on.......the only difference being, they already fly 900's out of said base.

West, SkyWest flies their 90's into ATL and go WEST. Some stops on the way (CMH), etc. Pinnacle's 900's go out and back to ATL. ASA can operate with spares, maint., and absorb it all into the fat giant operation that is ATL. Not saying it's gonna happen, but I give it a better chance than SkYW (unless there is a need for more 900's out West).

Trojan
 
Trojan,

SkyWest does have maintenance bases in ORD, MKE and MCI already. I'm not saying that is sufficient for an southeast operation, but I would have to believe that it is at least a start.
 
Pinnacle Airlines Corp. Announces New Partnership With Delta Air LinesMEMPHIS, TN, Apr 30, 2007 (MARKET WIRE via COMTEX News Network) -- Pinnacle Airlines Corp. (NASDAQ: PNCL) ("Pinnacle") announced today that it has entered into a new capacity purchase agreement with Delta Air Lines to operate 16 CRJ-900 aircraft as a Delta Connection carrier. Pinnacle currently expects that the aircraft will be operated by its wholly owned regional jet subsidiary, Pinnacle Airlines, Inc.
"We are pleased to welcome Pinnacle to the Delta Connection Program," said Wayne Aaron, vice president of Delta Connection. "Their strong performance, combined with the CRJ-900 aircraft in two-class configuration that they will be flying, will provide our customers with a first-rate experience."
"We are excited about this opportunity to join the Delta family," said Phil Trenary, Pinnacle's President and Chief Executive Officer. "We look forward to a long-term partnership with Delta, and we appreciate the confidence that they have placed with us. We will continue our tradition of industry leading regional jet operational performance as we transition into the CRJ-900 aircraft for Delta."

Under the agreement, Pinnacle will directly acquire and finance the aircraft. Pinnacle will take delivery of the aircraft between November 2007 and July 2008, with scheduled service as a Delta Connection carrier beginning in December 2007. The term of the agreement is for ten years.

The CRJ-900 aircraft, built by Bombardier Aerospace, features 76 seats in a two class configuration, and has operating costs among the best in its class. The CRJ-900 aircraft is the largest of Bombardier's CRJ Series family. With over 1,400 total aircraft delivered, the CRJ Series has developed into one of the leading regional aircraft product lines worldwide.
Pinnacle Airlines Corp., a publicly traded holding company, is the parent company of Pinnacle Airlines, Inc. and Colgan Air, Inc. Pinnacle Airlines, Inc. operates 139 Bombardier CRJ-200/440 Regional Jets in the United States and Canada as a Northwest Airlink carrier. Colgan Air, Inc. operates as Continental Connection, United Express and US Airways Express with a fleet of 39 Saab 340 and 10 Beech 1900 turboprop regional aircraft.

Contact:
Philip Reed
901-348-4257
www.pncl.com
SOURCE: Pinnacle Airlines



Pinnacle owns the airplanes, so they aren't going anywhere unless Pinnacle sells them to somebody else. If they do, it would probably be offshore or they will try and put them back to whoever hold the leases. I doubt they are going to do anything to help Comair, ASA, or anybody else that gets more DL flying because of this.
 
Guys, you have to remember...Uncle Jerry will give the flying to the carrier who is most, "Cost Competitive."

What that means is....you get the plane if you'll fly it cheap. Skywest guys understand this very well.

I completely disagree. If this were the case Mesa would be flying all of our stuff. We wouldn't have jobs. In todays business model companies are starting to see that you can't just throw customer service out the window. Cost competitive has so many different sides to it. Not simply who can do it cheaper. Look at completion factors, on time performance, baggage complaints, customer service complaints, profits etc.
 

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