Pinnacle hiring again

[PCL_128]

They're after somebody who's willing to give up the QOL for pennies on the dollar basically......... Attrition is high..
Speaking of this 80k program, I just don't get it. I unfortunately have no parents, never did after the age of 14. Did the whole enlisted military thing to get Educated, begged stealed, borrowed money, did the Sallie Mae loan thing which I am now about 4 or 5 months behind on. Even with Uncle Sam pickin up my Bachelor's, My flight loan along with my credit card debt I accumulated buying Mac&Cheese meals and other living expenses, I just haven't been making ends meet. Therefore I am being pushed out of this career because of Jimmy Richie over here with Mom and Pop dishin out 80k or 35k for Gulfstream, either way. These companies find us replaceable and that's exactly what I am, REPLACABLE. The last 9 yrs of my life wasted, blah,blah,blah..... Mind you it took 9 yrs for me to get that regional job, not 9 months! When you don't have Mom and Dad that's what it takes folks!! These programs do nothing but hurt the working man like myself and a bunch of others. I've decided to move on to a different career path. This industry is nowhere near where it should be. I wonder if the passenger's know that what the company think's they're worth?? 19k a year? 280hrs. T.T. with a Captain sitting next to them with only 400hrs of PIC because 9E has a "special" agreement with the FAA?? Seriously...! Pushed out.......... Thank you Rich kids... I have so much Gratitude and appreciation for how you've helped to improve the industry standards!

Good riddance. I certainly don't want to spend a whole trip with you with your obvious attitude problem.

 

[blackbox]

I have an interview with pinnacle next week. Anyone know what they are really looking for? I feel like I have a disadvantage because I didnt buy a crj or md-80 type rating. What are they looking for besides being able to get along with you on a 3 day? I've read the gouges so I know what to expect, just wondering what it is they are after?

You dont need any CRJ or MD80 or A380 type to get on with pinnacle so dont sweat it. My thinking is if you get the interview its a level playing field. They already knowyou are qualified, now they just want to take a look at you and your attitude. When i interviewed at pinnacle, I met an ex Kalitta pilot, C5 pilot, Furloughed ATA, Furloughed Chicago express. I was the only CFI. it was intimidating knowing who i was up against. But the reality is you are not competing with them. Good luck.

Pinnacle isnt that bad, i enjoy it. The crews are fun. i just hate that second year pay only goes up 4 bucks!! when everyone else is getting at least 10 bucks more (i.e. skywest, asa, comair, xjt, AWAC) for year 2.

 

[CoATP]

Basic knowledge (as in previous posts) Current IFR (it's a basic twin simulator -- flies like a baron) skills

be yourself

 

[Tank Commander]

Originally Posted by Mtnjam
They're after somebody who's willing to give up the QOL for pennies on the dollar basically......... Attrition is high..
Speaking of this 80k program, I just don't get it. I unfortunately have no parents, never did after the age of 14. Did the whole enlisted military thing to get Educated, begged stealed, borrowed money, did the Sallie Mae loan thing which I am now about 4 or 5 months behind on. Even with Uncle Sam pickin up my Bachelor's, My flight loan along with my credit card debt I accumulated buying Mac&Cheese meals and other living expenses, I just haven't been making ends meet. Therefore I am being pushed out of this career because of Jimmy Richie over here with Mom and Pop dishin out 80k or 35k for Gulfstream, either way. These companies find us replaceable and that's exactly what I am, REPLACABLE. The last 9 yrs of my life wasted, blah,blah,blah..... Mind you it took 9 yrs for me to get that regional job, not 9 months! When you don't have Mom and Dad that's what it takes folks!! These programs do nothing but hurt the working man like myself and a bunch of others. I've decided to move on to a different career path. This industry is nowhere near where it should be. I wonder if the passenger's know that what the company think's they're worth?? 19k a year? 280hrs. T.T. with a Captain sitting next to them with only 400hrs of PIC because 9E has a "special" agreement with the FAA?? Seriously...! Pushed out.......... Thank you Rich kids... I have so much Gratitude and appreciation for how you've helped to improve the industry standards!

PCL 128, Why are you taking that so personal? You aren't a rich kid to, are you?

 

[PCL_128]

PCL 128, Why are you taking that so personal? You aren't a rich kid to, are you?

Nope, middle-class all the way. I just have a problem with someone working at Pinnacle that has such a disdain for Gulfstream pilots. There's a few hundred of us at this airline, so if you don't like 'streamers, then you'd better not work here.

 

[Tank Commander]

I Hear ya. Sitting in LAN 32hr.

 

[PCL_128]

I Hear ya. Sitting in LAN 32hr.

Sounds like fun. I've got 31 hours in Moline starting tomorrow night. Living the dream you know.

 

[arthompson]

Could be worse PCL you could be sitting in scheduling....or FWA with out an overnight bag.

 

[PCL_128]

or FWA with out an overnight bag.

I'm still trying to figure out a way to blame that one on you. Give me enough time and I can figure out a way to blame anything on scheduling.

 

[VGerect]

Could be worse PCL you could be sitting in scheduling....or FWA with out an overnight bag.

Repeat after me- "I will never, never, never-ever put my overnight bag in the cargo compartment"

 

[PCL_128]

Repeat after me- "I will never, never, never-ever put my overnight bag in the cargo compartment"

Actually, it's worse than that. I was dumb enough to leave it at home since I was just supposed to be doing an out-and-back. Of course, things never work out the way they're supposed to. I was there for 2 days.

 

[Mtnjam]

Topic Once again

This Gulfstream topic continuosly comes up, round and round like a dog chasing his tail. Myself and alot of other people disagree with the whole thing. That's besides the point. I don't even want to get into it about what my opinions are about sticking a guy with less than 250hrs of PIC as PIC in the left seat. When I say that, I say it for the people who don't have enough balls to because there are alot of them out there. I can live with the guys from Gulfstream, at least you guys geta couple hundred hours of "VFR" Turbo Prop time......
It's the New CAPT. program from ERAU that makes me sick. It's just the final button that set me off as well as alot of others. There is already an issue with the Pilot industry. We are underpaid, overworked, etc,etc. People whine and cry for a new contract but yet they continue to work these jobs. Not only have I been pushed out financially but I've also decided that I no longer want to contribute to Airlines and other companies treating us like "Whore$" These programs with all these guys coming in are killing the industry. These guys not only pay or get mom and dad to pay big bucks for this program, but when they're done, they're just so happy to be flying a Turbo Prop or Jet that they don't care about making any money. They Especially don't care if Mom and Dad is paying their rent and other bills. This kind of mentality and behavior will never allow the industry to turn over and it never will turn over because there will always be somebody that's just "glad to be there" regardless of income because to alot of young people and other people nowadays money HAS NEVER BEEN AN ISSUE. This new ERAU program proves that theory to the T! Just my two cents here folks, but I'm sure alot of you agree. You Gulfstream guys got a Guilt Complex goin!! Relax the pressure's off now with the new meat in town

 

[Terry Hunter]

Did someone mention that Pinnacle is hiring again...

What is the upgrade time like these days? I say on airlinecentral that someone upgraded with a Apr05 DOH - is really that fast?

Thanks.

 

[PCL_128]

Did someone mention that Pinnacle is hiring again...

What is the upgrade time like these days? I say on airlinecentral that someone upgraded with a Apr05 DOH - is really that fast?

Thanks.

No, it's not like that anymore. You're looking at 5 years to upgrade if hired right now unless we pick up more growth.

 

[needapayraise]

Good riddance. I certainly don't want to spend a whole trip with you with your obvious attitude problem.

Yeah, he has a bad attitude of wanting to get paid a respectable wage. Good thing he won't be flying trips with you anymore with your big grin on your face thinking how cool it is to be flying in a jet.

 

[PCL_128]

Yeah, he has a bad attitude of wanting to get paid a respectable wage. Good thing he won't be flying trips with you anymore with your big grin on your face thinking how cool it is to be flying in a jet.

You obviously have no clue what you're talking about. I wasn't referring to the pay he thinks he deserves, I was referring to his animosity towards GIA and ERAU CAPT graduates. That attitude doesn't work at this company. Gulfstream pilots make up a significant percentage of the pilot group, so if you don't like us, then you best work elsewhere.

 

[pilotkppsg]

You obviously have no clue what you're talking about. I wasn't referring to the pay he thinks he deserves, I was referring to his animosity towards GIA and ERAU CAPT graduates. That attitude doesn't work at this company. Gulfstream pilots make up a significant percentage of the pilot group, so if you don't like us, then you best work elsewhere.

So, that's about 300 GIA'ers at pinnacle right? Figure about 30 grand per "pilot," right? Ok, by my math, that's 9 million paid in full to fly CRJ's. Good job guys, keep up the noble work while I try to afford milk and gas.

 

[BOHICAgain]

So, that's about 300 GIA'ers at pinnacle right? Figure about 30 grand per "pilot," right? Ok, by my math, that's 9 million paid in full to fly CRJ's. Good job guys, keep up the noble work while I try to afford milk and gas.

where your beer money?? ..u gotta sacrafice milk for beer

 

[newfish]

Pcl 128......

You obviously have no clue what you're talking about. I wasn't referring to the pay he thinks he deserves, I was referring to his animosity towards GIA and ERAU CAPT graduates. That attitude doesn't work at this company. Gulfstream pilots make up a significant percentage of the pilot group, so if you don't like us, then you best work elsewhere.

PCL 128

I have watched you defend the practices of Pinnacle for some time now. Your attitude represents everything that is wrong with our industry. You obviously went through a PFT program. And now you are a CAPTAIN of a shiny new CRJ!!!!!! So what if you are willing to work for the absolute worst wages in the industry for a company that hates you. At least your airline is growing (or was) and you got a quick upgrade to CAPTAIN. And even if you are making the worst captain pay in the industry, at least you are making more than the GIA grad to your right who makes 16k before taxes and LOVES IT! Why should management hire qualified pilots and pay them what they deserve when you can fill the front seats with a fresh 250hr wonderboy and a captain who doesn't care. SMARTEN UP! GET SOME GUTS! You deserve better that your getting.

 

[PCL_128]

PCL 128

I have watched you defend the practices of Pinnacle for some time now. Your attitude represents everything that is wrong with our industry. You obviously went through a PFT program. And now you are a CAPTAIN of a shiny new CRJ!!!!!! So what if you are willing to work for the absolute worst wages in the industry for a company that hates you. At least your airline is growing (or was) and you got a quick upgrade to CAPTAIN. And even if you are making the worst captain pay in the industry, at least you are making more than the GIA grad to your right who makes 16k before taxes and LOVES IT! Why should management hire qualified pilots and pay them what they deserve when you can fill the front seats with a fresh 250hr wonderboy and a captain who doesn't care. SMARTEN UP! GET SOME GUTS! You deserve better that your getting.

Apparently you haven't been watching very closely. I very rarely defend anything going on at Pinnacle. I was one of the loudest critics of both the company and the crew involved in the 3701 incident. I constantly attack the company's labor relations. I attack our training department all the time. Where is this "defending" that you speak of? I'm merely telling people to avoid this company if you don't like the GIA pilots, because there's lots of us here.

As for the details of your post, you're wrong on many counts. For one thing, I don't make the worst pay in the industry. Not even close. Pinnacle's Captain pay is firmly in the middle of the pack. The FO pay is horrible, but the Captain pay is average. Secondly, our first year FOs make about 21k or so, not the 16k you cite.

As for guts, I assure you that I have plenty. I have no problem walking out of this place and shutting it down if necessary.