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Some of the things you are saying is true and some isn't. The closing is going to be in the next few days but the dispatch will be moving. I haven't heard too much about pay but I know it will be changing and so will schedules. It is a good merger for all of us currently employed by Pinnacle or JetRide, but it is going to be a bumpy ride at first. No one is saying much to anyone in either organization but we should expect an announcement soon. Good luck everyone!
 
There many questions that are racing through jetride. Hopefully some of you at Pinnacle can address a few of them. Concerning your schedule, are you guys doing a 3 pilot rotation with the plane gone the entire time or does the plane come back to its base after trips?

The remote airplanes fly with a crew of 2 for 15 days. The crew swap happens on the 15th day if the airplane is accessible to an airport with airline service. If not, the rotation is shortened or lengthened a day or two to get the airplane and crew within airline service.

What locatations do you have assigned as bases?

ASG and LAS. Two lears 35/55 in LAS and a CE650, 1 31A, and 60 in ASG. The rest are remote. The 45's are having a time finding a home right now.

The remote guys live where ever they want. You are just responsible for getting to a major airport and they airline you out.

What type of equipment do you guys have and what are the plans for the future.

Have 3-31A's, 2-45's, 3-60's, 1-55, 1-35, 1-CE650, 2-DA50's.

Planned ????? Believe it when it's on property.
Will you guys move into LCK new facilities with who's managment.

No idea.

Seems as if JetRide managment will say aidos to the pilots and go there own way with Airnet. What really concerns me is quality of life. How much time does one actually spend at home. We work a 14 days on call where we can be home at least half of the time on average. Being gone a straight 14 days is a long time to be gone especially if your only pulling in 70K. I heard that the signing was going to be today.... is this true???

Remotes are 15/15. Based guys have no schedule right now really. Again, understaffed. They are trying for 3/aircraft to give 10 hard off. Too many guys moving up to bigger and better.

This may very well be a good thing to happen but at the same time it pisses me off that nobody will fill us in on whats going on.

Preaching to the choir brother.

Since you guys are a privately owned maybe someone can shead some light on the issue.

I've made calls before that something wouldn't happen and it did, so........

Jetride has a lot of good assets, people, and procedures in place. I hope that in the end this will be great for both of us. I think it will be bumpy for a while though.

I'll pick up the first round with the first Jetride crew I come across and maybe we can put some faces to screen names.

Good luck guys!:beer:
 
Thanks a lot for the reply. We were in LAS this last Sunday and passed one of your 60's parked at Signature. Would have been nice to shoot the bull for a while. Anyways, thanks again... Now can we start that damn drum roll
 
Downwind you just need to by me beer. How come you got more info then me. :)
 
maybe I'm missing something, as far as the remote pilots that you are talking about. Are they assigned to an aircraft at a remote base or are they sent to an aircraft wherever it happens to be? thanks
 
wonder if jetride guys will be able to bid into a schedule like that? probablly one of the growing pains to come.
 
maybe I'm missing something, as far as the remote pilots that you are talking about. Are they assigned to an aircraft at a remote base or are they sent to an aircraft wherever it happens to be? thanks

There is no remote base. You pick up and leave the aircraft where it is (assuming that airport is within reasonable distance of airline service). We are generally assigned to an aircraft. Subject to MX, relief, vacation, etc. You will generally be in the same ship 80% of the time.

What do you Pinnacle guys wear for uniforms?

Black non-descript shoes, blue wool pants, white Van Husen aviator shirt (short and long sleeve), tie, epaulets, no wings, blue wool jacket for cooler temps w/ sleeve strips and wings, Peronne leather jacket for colder temps with epaulets and velcro patch. Optional sweaters. Pilots must match at all times.
 
Have you Pinnacle guys heard that the merger is supposed to take place this week? Do you know if it will be called Pinnacle, JetRide or Pinnacle/JetRide? What callsign to you use? Sorry for all the questions, just trying to get some answers.
 
Hey starchecker I agree with you on not knowing what is going on. It seems lke we are working for the CIA, nobody wants to tell us anything. Also $70,000 to fly a 60 as a captain sucks with whatever schedule you are working.
 
The reason why there is little said (tight lipped) is because of a confidentiality agreement that was suppose to have been signed between the two companies. I can tell you for that reason some of what is being said, heard, and posted may hold some truth, and some is only rumor. I do not use a screen name and I not elaborate on any possible truth to a buy out merger what ever. I can pass on some general information about Pinnacle, but cannot verify any rumors. We are just going to have to let this play out until something official come out.
 
Just curious, do the Younkins have anything to do with Pinnacle Air Service? I know Bobby is gone now, but the Younkin's were always such a big presence at ASG.
 
Word to the wise Jet Ride Pilots: be real careful what you say or who you talk to right now at Pinnacle Air Services, they have a bunch of brown-nosing PIC's who will snitch you out to the D.O. or C.P. first chance they get just like they did with the former Director of training who was one the hardest working best liked pilots in the company.
 
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the former Director of training who was one the hardest working best liked pilots in the company.
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Apparentley NOT! I love how these new posters have shown up with one or two post. Hiding?
 
Slick let's improve on our spelling shall we. Very intelligent response, I bet you spent the latter part of the day thinking that up that witty rebuttal. Did you personally know the former Director of Training or are you just ignorant and taking a break from your imaginary girlfriend? Come on brightlights, I know you can do better than that.
 
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Did you personally know the former Director of Training. Come on brightlights, I know you can do better than that.
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Yes I did and Yes I can. He was canned for recruiting pilots that had just completed recurrent training to work for another company. How's that for witty!
 
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Slick let's improve on our spelling shall we. Very intelligent response, I bet you spent the latter part of the day thinking that up that witty rebuttal. Did you personally know the former Director of Training or are you just ignorant and taking a break from your imaginary girlfriend? Come on brightlights, I know you can do better than that.
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Ritz. Sounds like YOU were that former "Director of Training." Disgruntled? Just an outsider looking in this conversation. Who says what you said and it be about someone else?
 
Ritz Carlton said:
Word to the wise Jet Ride Pilots: be real careful what you say or who you talk to right now at Pinnacle Air Services, they have a bunch of brown-nosing PIC's who will snitch you out to the D.O. or C.P. first chance they get just like they did with the former Director of training who was one the hardest working best liked pilots in the company.
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What a way to create animosity. I'll be completely honest with you and everyone here. I have worked for Pinnacle for a year and a half now. It was a little rocky at first. That has changed because the person who made things rough for everyone has since left. As far as ou D.O. He is stern, but completely fair. Don't let hear something about what has happened to you or what you have done through the grapevine. Let him hear it from you. He wants to hear it from the source. As far as the "Director of Training." I didn't know we ever had one. If we did have one, that would be news to me. We did have a pilot who worked here that was trying to recruit our pilots to other companies. That is definitely a conflict of interest. I believed he was asked to not come back to work. Dave J may know more on that than myself. As far as being snitches. We have nothing to gain, but everything to lose by being tattle tales. If we as pilots come across as cry baby children then we are looking for a new job. There is absolutely no room for that here. Back stabbing is definitley frowned upon by all of us pilots. You won't last if you are not mature. Nuf said.

J
 
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Ritz. Sounds like YOU were that former "Director of Training." Disgruntled? Just an outsider looking in this conversation. Who says what you said and it be about someone else?
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No, I wasn't and no I am not. So I am glad we got that settled Mac. It was a word to the wise and we really appreciate your sentiments as an outsider. So why you are looking in, there are some colleagues of mine at PA looking to improve their position or better themselves with Management by politicking and undermining the efforts of fellow pilots even when they are not present to defend themselves to put it mildly regardless if what he did was wrong or right. So instead of instigating perhaps you could add something positive since you're eyeballing this discussion.
 
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No, I wasn't and no I am not. So I am glad we got that settled Mac. It was a word to the wise and we really appreciate your sentiments as an outsider. So why you are looking in, there are some colleagues of mine at PA looking to improve their position or better themselves with Management by politicking and undermining the efforts of fellow pilots even when they are not present to defend themselves to put it mildly regardless if what he did was wrong or right. So instead of instigating perhaps you could add something positive since you're eyeballing this discussion.
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It seems that we are both "eyeballing" this forum. Instigating, huh. Looks like you are instigating a problem between the two merging companies. Sure. I'll add something positive. Here it is. YOU STINK!
 
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It seems that we are both "eyeballing" this forum. Instigating, huh. Looks like you are instigating a problem between the two merging companies. Sure. I'll add something positive. Here it is. YOU STINK!
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Mac that hurts, I guess I should feel insulted now huh? Whats wrong Mac? Are you on the wagon again? In the doghouse, Group therapy not working? As far as your opinion goes:

http://members.fortunecity.com/wavjunky/swl-g/getalife.wav

Maybe your imaginary girlfriend or boyfriend will put up with your verbal abuse but we won't. Toodles Mac.

Post Script: Don't Go Away Mad Mac! Just go away!
 
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Hey, where do I sign up for this gig? Expanding company, ok pay, benefits, good equipement, and 15 days a month off. Send me an application!!! Send two, I have a GF that flies also. We love Vegas this time of the year and I have family in Arkansas. Wouldn't mind flying a jet finally either.
 
Ritz Carlton said:
Slick let's improve on our spelling shall we. Very intelligent response, I bet you spent the latter part of the day thinking that up that witty rebuttal. Did you personally know the former Director of Training or are you just ignorant and taking a break from your imaginary girlfriend? Come on brightlights, I know you can do better than that.
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(Quote= Ritz)Maybe your imaginary girlfriend or boyfriend will put up with your verbal abuse but we won't. Toodles Mac.

Therapy can help you with your fascination of imaginary people. Did you change your screen name so you could become an imaginary PILOT?
 
Downwind said:
You can pretty much disregard what I said earlier. We have 6 60's, 3 35's, and 1 31 coming on property from a buyout. We SHOULD not be taking any managed aircraft to our property.

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Hey Downwind,

Your Info is a little flawed. The LJ31 is a managed airplane.
Also we're in the process of placing a GIII on the cert. and it's managed.
So if this merger/buyout is taking place between PA and JR than your taking some or all the managed ACFT.
 

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