Pinnacle Air Services

[Dave J]

There will be change in both ways and what is being said now will most likely not be how it ends up, and I don't care who you are getting your information from. This company is a privately held company and they have done things the way they want too and will continue. And no matter what some may think of are DO he started this company and built it from haveing one lear 31 to now have 13 aircraft not counting the JR planes and yes he has had the money behind him but he is the one who built it, and I know this because I was the first line pilot hired and seen this company grow to where it is now in 4 years. Just one more short thing PA has been in the BLACK each year.

 

[macpilot]

what do you mean by being in the BLACK?

I agree with TennLear, horizontal refreshment really cuts into your perdiem!

 

[MNR]

TennLear60 I hear what your saying. I hope your right. I really won't know how it works out for me until we start doing it that way. When we do I will come back here and say yep you were right I was worried about nothing....if it works out.

I definately don't like the idea of paying for rooms out of my pocket in hope that the company will reimburse me later. I would rather get permission to just put it on the company card and submit it with the reciepts.

Dave J your right they can do things however they want and I can decide if I want to continue to work for them or pull the eject handle. I would hope however that they will continue to ask for and take into consideration pilot imput on matters that directly involve pilots. Jetride has been in the Black too btw, just hard to see from Airnet's public balance sheet.

 

[slickmagneto]

TennLear60 I hear what your saying. I hope your right. I really won't know how it works out for me until we start doing it that way. When we do I will come back here and say yep you were right I was worried about nothing....if it works out.

I definately don't like the idea of paying for rooms out of my pocket in hope that the company will reimburse me later. I would rather get permission to just put it on the company card and submit it with the reciepts.

For the LAST TIME: 99.9% of the time there is no money of your own that you will be spending. You get an initial cash advance, the company credit card carried by the captain or the captains petty cash. The End.

 

[TennLear60]

I forgot to menteion the "Captain's Cash" bag. Each captain carries a bag with $XXX.XX in it. I don't want to say in a public forum what that amount is because it is company money. This cash is for rides, tips, stock, etc. Keep your receipts and get a check to replenish the bag. Each captain gets an AMEX for stock as well. Remember. Don't lose any receipts. You will be responsible at that point.

 

[Dave J]

what do you mean by being in the BLACK?

I agree with TennLear, horizontal refreshment really cuts into your perdiem!

The company has made money each year.

 

[Dave J]

MNR, I hope you are correct and that PA starts to adopt a more open communication. The PA pilots know that the JR pilots are being given more info part of that could be the way JR system is set up. It seems to be better then ares, but I also know PA hates rumors as you know one thing said to one person by the time it gets to the fourth person the story has changed. Example this credit per diem card are CP never even heard of it I had heard of some mention of it, but look now it is back to the check for your per diem the direct deposit thing is a new twist that would be nice. My opinion over the next several months there is not going to be much change pay per diem ect. JR pilots will continue to see things in regards to this as they have just the name on the top of the check will change and same goes for the PA pilots. As the aircraft and crews are brought over that is where the change will start to show and this is going to take some time.

You have heard the saying it is not always greener on the other side of the fence we tend to some times think it is in this case which ever way it works out either it be more of the way JR does things or the way PA does things it will only be a different shade of green. I left this company once it was a mistake, but it was something I felt I needed to do for family reasons and an offer of a six figure salery didn't hurt either or so I thought. It doesn't do any good to make 6 figures for 6 months.

In regards to the per diem thing and how some can not see how it is possible to make money. The PA guys who are on a 15 day rotation give or take a day or two and then off for 15 it works easier for us to make money because it is over 15 days yea I have to do a little work to find a hotel but I just stayed in the Marriotte in HOU for 68.00 with tax and fees that leaves a lot for me to eat on. Now I am in ASE and yea the hotel is costing 135.00 but I will be back in HOU in a couple. Then lets say you go to BWI or IAD which is high rate all year and I get in the Marriotte there there for 75.00 but I am getting 226 and lets say I sit there for two night well thats 452.00 yet my two night total is 150 so lets say you eat 50.00 a day, and I have had unlimitted expense accounts and over the course of the year it averaged out to less then that eating what ever I wanted. Sometimes it might have been steak other times pizza maybe next night susui but that is because it is what I wanted. In any case on those two nights in this example hotel and meals total 250 I am on the possitive 452 - 250 = 202 in my pocket. Somedays you will just break even some maybe even lose 25 ie PBI the next day you are possitive 35 and if you eat how you eat when you are at home when you just go out causual and not trying to impress a date you will end up 300 400 up easy but this is over 15 days straight it won't work as well if you go out do a 1 or 2 night turn then you end up back home for the next 3 days then you go back out and over the course of a two week rotation you spend only 7 nights away, but you will make some you may have to give up eating fillet every night and try the fish or chicken and pasta every other day and yea we got some guys who eat subway every day and stay in the motel 8 or what ever and those guys make a killing some even split rooms but that is up to them the crews can stay in seperate hotels one in the motel 6 because he trying to make money on his per diem and the other guy in the hilton they just need to be in contact and show up for the flight.

 

[starcheckdriver]

This cash is for rides, tips, stock, etc. Keep your receipts and get a check to replenish the bag. Each captain gets an AMEX for stock as well. Remember. Don't lose any receipts. You will be responsible at that point.

How do you get a receipt for tipping line guys, shuttle drivers, etc?

 

[slickmagneto]

How do you get a receipt for tipping line guys, shuttle drivers, etc?

The blank receipts in the captains cash bag are used for that type of situation.

 

[TennLear60]

Starcheck. Like slick said. There are blank receipts in each bag.

Date:
Location:
Trip Number:
Amount:
Reason:

Pretty simple. For actual receipts you receive you would put the same info as above on the receipt.

Dave. You gonna eat BBQ at the joint at the end of Main Street there in ASE?