Pinnacle Air Services

[JJET44]

Hey,

Do you PNL guys actually get your 3% raise or is it just something they say you get like at JR. I'm still waiting for my annual 3%. It's been 3 months.

 

[TigerDriver]

I'm still waiting for my annual 3%. It's been 3 months.

yup, me too, 5 months waiting for the 3% tip and 12 months waiting for our phantom raise when we have wyvern times as well.

 

[JJET44]

Just found out that the pay scale on the G-IV is only 5K a year more that the G-III. Top pay, $115k and 15 on, 15 off? No thanks!!
At that rate we're going to experience pilots getting typed and jumping ship shortly after.
$40k down the drain

 

[FL410guy]

Hey,

Do you PNL guys actually get your 3% raise or is it just something they say you get like at JR. I'm still waiting for my annual 3%. It's been 3 months.

Still waiting for my big ole 3% as well. its been 3 months going on 4. Seems as if managment has it on the back burner. Left more emails and voice messages than I can remember to get some feed back on the delay. Basically NOTHING!!!

 

[rice]

Any of you guys care to pass on info about the two DA-50's and soon to be DA-900 at BDR. Just wondering if its worth the time to even call down to Nelson and start the wheels in motion. From what I've been reading on this thread I'd have to say it aint looking good.

Thanks!!

 

[Dave J]

Rice not sure what kind of info you are looking for. Yes there are a couple of 50s. They are owned by PA but operate kinda by them selves on a contract. As far as a 900 goes guess we have looked at one that is about it. Things change from what they are looking at and what they get and where it may end up alot and sometimes pretty fast. It is best not to speculate and just sit back and believe it when you see it. Not sure if we are looking for anyone on the Falcons at this time it is something you would have to inquire at the company about. Just a recomendation I wouldn't go to Nelson, but instead ask to speak with the Chief Pilot Richard Styles.

 

[Dave J]

Hey,

Do you PNL guys actually get your 3% raise or is it just something they say you get like at JR. I'm still waiting for my annual 3%. It's been 3 months.

As far as I know every one has recieved there raise. It may not always be on your exact hire date but when it has been late they have made it retro active to correct. I am not going to get into an exact percentage but the 3% over all is close. It may not be much but something is better then nothing if it make you feal better. Don't get me wrong I would like it to be more but a constant pay check that I don't ever have to worry about it not being there is worth more to me now then how big a raise I feal I should get.

 

[JJET44]

Ok here's my concern.

If we don't get our raises by the time the buyout is finalized we just might lose it.

I'm in a little different situation than most. I just upgraded and I'm on a new pay rate, so I'm just losing out on back pay, but others are not so fortunate.

I'm just going to summit a pay adjustment (overtime) sheet with the amount that they should have adjusted my pay for that short period of time (based on 3%). Maybe plus interest!!!

 

[Ritz Carlton]

It's a dead end here. A stagnating quagmire of status quo. Not much flying at all no current progressive annual pay scale nothing to look forward to except your days off if they remember that you are on the road or forget that you are on the road like they have done with some other pilots. The Chief Pilot does not stick up for the pilots and constantly sets a double standard and is inconsistant. This is all fact.

" Don't go away mad just go away."

 

[FL410guy]

It's a dead end here. A stagnating quagmire of status quo. Not much flying at all no current progressive annual pay scale nothing to look forward to except your days off if they remember that you are on the road or forget that you are on the road like they have done with some other pilots. The Chief Pilot does not stick up for the pilots and constantly sets a double standard and is inconsistant. This is all fact.

" Don't go away mad just go away."

Sounds just like our old chief pilot at JR. A chief pilot needs to have a pair to stick up for the pilots. That really gets under my skin when that happens. However we have an excellent DO that does look after us now. Though sometimes he gets so busy he forgets things like our 3% RAISE!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Texanflyboy]

Wondering if Pinnacle is a good first corporate job and if Pinnacle is currently hiring. Wanting to get into corporate (maybe stay freight), build some time of course, and 4-5 years later something better. To read this whole thread will take time, and i'm on a short layover in MDW.

I did cover for a route in ASG and we used Pinnacles FBO. But, I was new to my company and wasn't really looking. I'm actively looking at places like USA Jet, Ameristar (maybe), IFL Group and a Beechjet corporate outfit in DTW (but they start at 30k not 35k and I'd have to fly their C421 at times). Sent out some resumes in the Dallas aera also. Really just want to know if Pinnacle is worth sending a resume to.

Thanks for the insights!

 

[AviateYou]

Interesting blog, enumeration is always the most popular topic.

 

[JJET44]

Wondering if Pinnacle is a good first corporate job and if Pinnacle is currently hiring. Wanting to get into corporate (maybe stay freight), build some time of course, and 4-5 years later something better. To read this whole thread will take time, and i'm on a short layover in MDW.

I did cover for a route in ASG and we used Pinnacles FBO. But, I was new to my company and wasn't really looking. I'm actively looking at places like USA Jet, Ameristar (maybe), IFL Group and a Beechjet corporate outfit in DTW (but they start at 30k not 35k and I'd have to fly their C421 at times). Sent out some resumes in the Dallas aera also. Really just want to know if Pinnacle is worth sending a resume to.

Thanks for the insights!

I think that you need 2500tt to get hired. This is to meet Wyvren and ARG/US mins.

 

[Frozen Ronin]

Talked to Richard several times, I'm right at 2500TT and live in Vegas. I keep getting "call me in a week or two, we'll be bringing on more pilots any time". I say this as I sit in groundschool for a regional gig. Too bad, I wasn't a bad wrench on the Lears, either.

 

[JJET44]

You're better off at a regional anyway!
I'll take you forever to upgrade to capt. at 2500tt.

 

[Ritz Carlton]

You're better off at a regional anyway!
I'll take you forever to upgrade to capt. at 2500tt.

You're better off applying at Citation Shares or Netjets, in fact much better off. The scenario or culture if you prefer at Pinnacle is a bunch of good pilots working for for a couple of individuals who really lack interpersonal skills and are in middle management who don't have anything in place for a progressive future at Pinnacle and constantly contradict themselves.

 

[LJPilot]

I was hired on with around 2500 TT and I upgraded in 13 months. Depends on the type and movement in the company.

 

[JJET44]

I was hired on with around 2500 TT and I upgraded in 13 months. Depends on the type and movement in the company.

How did you get 1000 hrs of flying in 13 months?
QStar mins require that you have 3500 hrs to upgrade to capt!!



Turbojet

Turboprop

Helicopter (RW)*
Total Time
3,500

2,500

2,500 (1,500 RW)
PIC
2,000

500

1,000 RW
PIC Multi-engine
500

250

NA

Multi-engine ​

1,500

1,000

NA
Instrument
300

200

100 (50 RW)
Turbine
500

250

500
Time in type

100

100
(type and model)
100​

* Total aircraft time (rotor-wing time)​

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[LJPilot]

It does take some extra work, but its there if you want it (contract flying, overtime). On a normal schedule I would guess upgrade time is well over 18 months.

 

[JJET44]

Rumors abound about the 45's. Story is that they are too MX heavy. Looking at selling. Same with our new 55 that I don't think has flown yet.

Any update on this? I heard that they might be doin' away with the 35's and 31's in exchange for mid size jets. The 45 would seem to be a good fit but not acoarding to this!