Pilots allegedly report Ron White for Marijuana possession?

[Fly91]

Are you gonna let them board on the way back?

You know, the FAA has this silly rule about allowing intoxicated passengers on board. You can BET that these 18 yr olds will be trashed by the end of the game.

No, he's gonna tell them all they can't take off until they sober up lol

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[FO 4 Life]

You guys can armchair quarterback this all you want. You don't know what you will do if/when it actually happens to you.

What would you do if you were descending, have to clear customs, and one of the FAs tell you the back is like Cheech and Chong in Still Smokin?

 

[Hugh Johnson]

That would be the right thing to do.

You're full of crap.

 

[Fly91]

You guys can armchair quarterback this all you want. You don't know what you will do if/when it actually happens to you.

What would you do if you were descending, have to clear customs, and one of the FAs tell you the back is like Cheech and Chong in Still Smokin?

Luckily the people I fly for forbid anyone from smoking anything on their planes so I don't have to worry about it. You wouldn't believe me if I told you what I've told passengers who lit up just cigerettes when I flew Part 135.
Someone has the balls to light up a joint, back in my 135 flying days, where the smoke is going to come into my cockpit, they'll be treated like the loser that they are. If they don't put it out immediately I'll physically put it out for them. If they give me any sh1t about it, I would probably call ahead to have a cop meet the plane. Hell if I'm getting in trouble for some loser, and more importantly, hell if I'm gonna fail a random drug test because they can't wait till we land to smoke.

But Part 91, great job, no drug program for the company to worry about, the owner lights up a joint, might want to re-think what I might do. Probably nothing except have a chat with him at a later date about it.

 

[ksu_aviator]

ksu_aviator,

Might be the right thing to do, but if you're trying to tell us all that you would call the police on your passengers.....YOU ARE FULL OF POOP!

The cops would laugh at you, you would lose your job, and you'd be the laughing stock of the aviation industry.




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No, I would not call the police. You don't have to call the police if your passengers drink alcohol. I have, on three occassions, driven my passengers, in their rental car, to the hotel and caught a cab back to the airport. Just because I'm not morrally corrupt doesn't mean I can't be reasonable. MJ, on the other hand, won't fly and won't go unnoticed.

Isn't it sad that so many people look at certain rules with such disdain? Why do you think they outlawed MJ? Just because they don't want you to have fun? Probably the same reason they banned drinking and driving.

 

[414Flyer]

No, I would not call the police. You don't have to call the police if your passengers drink alcohol. I have, on three occassions, driven my passengers, in their rental car, to the hotel and caught a cab back to the airport. Just because I'm not morrally corrupt doesn't mean I can't be reasonable. MJ, on the other hand, won't fly and won't go unnoticed.

Isn't it sad that so many people look at certain rules with such disdain? Why do you think they outlawed MJ? Just because they don't want you to have fun? Probably the same reason they banned drinking and driving.

But wait, you just said it was the right thing to do to call the police, and that there is no room for moral equivocation, no room for judgements?

You seem to equivocate a fair amount yourself.

Actually though, reasons for outlawing MJ is nothing like drinking and driving, not even in the same universe.

 

[ksu_aviator]

But wait, you just said it was the right thing to do to call the police, and that there is no room for moral equivocation, no room for judgements?

You seem to equivocate a fair amount yourself.

Actually though, reasons for outlawing MJ is nothing like drinking and driving, not even in the same universe.

No, I said if they are breaking the law you should call the police. The situations above eliminated broken laws by providing a DD.

The reasons for outlawing MJ far out weigh those of drunk driving, especially to the extent that DUI's have been expanded too.

Now, if you want to continue to debate this point, I suggest that you dispatch with the Strawman tactics and come up with some thing substantive.

 

[414Flyer]

No, I said if they are breaking the law you should call the police. The situations above eliminated broken laws by providing a DD.

The reasons for outlawing MJ far out weigh those of drunk driving, especially to the extent that DUI's have been expanded too.

Now, if you want to continue to debate this point, I suggest that you dispatch with the Strawman tactics and come up with some thing substantive.

Now that is an utterly ludicious statement, that reasons for outlawing marijuana far outweigh drunk driving. People every day die from drunk drivers. Thats as silly as the person on here who thinks hemp destroys families and kills people, but then refuses to explain how I am dumb for questioning him for that.

I am just using your own statements. You are are the one that said someone has a more obligation to call the police when you see something illegal, and that there is no room for judgement or equivocation, but then you admit you do not call the police everytime you see something wrong.

You yourself have most certainly broken laws, did you call the police on yourself too? I mean you do have a moral obligation for that dont you?

 

[Amish RakeFight]

The data is out there. People die more from alcohol than from MJ.

 

[400A]

The data is out there. People die more from alcohol than from MJ.

Would you care to quote that as a percentage of users?

 

[414Flyer]

Cirrhosis of the liver is the 12th leading cause of disease in the US. And then you can get into lots of other effects from alcohol like car accidents and drunk drivers, so far almost 11,000 people this year to date. And then you have people that just drink themselves to death.

Alcohol has far worse physical consequences to ones body and society.

 

[ksu_aviator]

By the way, I never said I was perfect. What I said is that there is right and there is wrong and there is no in between. Do I do the wrong things. Yes. Absolutely....I'M NOT PERFECT. What this does not mean is that we should condemn anyone that tries to live up to a higher standard.

 

[400A]

I am still curious how I was so dumb for asking how hemp is so harmful.

You know what, I am going to make your day. Since you are going to follow me around and make stupid remarks about me on each thread. The discussion was about MJ, I do not know why nor do I care why Amish Abortion Lover changed the word to Hemp.

We get it, you and Amish support recreational drug use. Knock yourself out. MJ is against the law and that is all there is to it. I am sure you are one of those guys who only follow the FARS that you approve of as well.

By the way while you and your buddy are quoting all of your DRIVING UNDER THE INFLUENCE numbers, are you so stupid that you think that is only Alcohol? It includes all substances you morons.

 

[Fly91]

Why do you think they outlawed MJ? Just because they don't want you to have fun? Probably the same reason they banned drinking and driving.

The only reason MJ is not legal is because the government can't figure out a way to tax it and actually collect all of the taxes from all sales that take place. People would be growing their own in every city in the country and they wouldn't sell hardly any in the stores, it would just be cheaper on the street.

Alcohol can easily be taxed and they know they're getting all of their taxes because people can't just throw together a brewery in their house to make enough to sell on the streets.

Alcohol kills something like 50,000 people each year, MJ kills what, maybe 10. Its all about marketing and profits for our government. They can care less about 50,000 deaths because they are making billions of $$$.

 

[400A]

The only reason MJ is not legal is because the government can't figure out a way to tax it and actually collect all of the taxes from all sales that take place. People would be growing their own in every city in the country and they wouldn't sell hardly any in the stores, it would just be cheaper on the street.

Alcohol can easily be taxed and they know they're getting all of their taxes because people can't just throw together a brewery in their house to make enough to sell on the streets.

Alcohol kills something like 50,000 people each year, MJ kills what, maybe 10. Its all about marketing and profits for our government. They can care less about 50,000 deaths because they are making billions of $$$.

The fact that is legal to brew your own Beer at home kind of shoots a whole in your argument.

 

[414Flyer]

You know what, I am going to make your day. Since you are going to follow me around and make stupid remarks about me on each thread. The discussion was about MJ, I do not know why nor do I care why Amish Abortion Lover changed the word to Hemp.

We get it, you and Amish support recreational drug use. Knock yourself out. MJ is against the law and that is all there is to it. I am sure you are one of those guys who only follow the FARS that you approve of as well.

By the way while you and your buddy are quoting all of your DRIVING UNDER THE INFLUENCE numbers, are you so stupid that you think that is only Alcohol? It includes all substances you morons.

Nope, sorry. I never said I am in favor of recreational drug use. NEVER EVER did I say that. What I am against though, is laws that make no sense, or demagogery based on nonsense and misconceptions. My views are very libertarian based.

It was YOU who jumped on someone elses hemp comment, so do not blame that on anyone else. YOU said hemp was dangerous and killed, all I did was ask how. You said that was a stupid question, but you would absolutely not explain your comment.

And because I asked a question of you, (there was absolutely no insult in my question, or any implying anything whatsoever, unlike your response which included "dumb").

Point being if you are going to throw the word dumb at me for asking a question, you owe to to at least explain yourself. And now you are claiming I have advocated drug use. Is that the best you can do, to throw out words like "dumb", moron and make up lies that people here advocate drug use in this thread?

 

[FO 4 Life]

Luckily the people I fly for forbid anyone from smoking anything on their planes so I don't have to worry about it. You wouldn't believe me if I told you what I've told passengers who lit up just cigerettes when I flew Part 135.
Someone has the balls to light up a joint, back in my 135 flying days, where the smoke is going to come into my cockpit, they'll be treated like the loser that they are. If they don't put it out immediately I'll physically put it out for them. If they give me any sh1t about it, I would probably call ahead to have a cop meet the plane. Hell if I'm getting in trouble for some loser, and more importantly, hell if I'm gonna fail a random drug test because they can't wait till we land to smoke.

But Part 91, great job, no drug program for the company to worry about, the owner lights up a joint, might want to re-think what I might do. Probably nothing except have a chat with him at a later date about it.

Like I said, I guess some people will never fly the Rolling Stones.

 

[400A]

The only reason MJ is not legal is because the government can't figure out a way to tax it and actually collect all of the taxes from all sales that take place. People would be growing their own in every city in the country and they wouldn't sell hardly any in the stores, it would just be cheaper on the street.

Alcohol can easily be taxed and they know they're getting all of their taxes because people can't just throw together a brewery in their house to make enough to sell on the streets.

Alcohol kills something like 50,000 people each year, MJ kills what, maybe 10. Its all about marketing and profits for our government. They can care less about 50,000 deaths because they are making billions of $$$.

It may also have something to do with the fact tat second hand pot smoke can effect others.

 

[ksu_aviator]

The only reason MJ is not legal is because the government can't figure out a way to tax it and actually collect all of the taxes from all sales that take place. People would be growing their own in every city in the country and they wouldn't sell hardly any in the stores, it would just be cheaper on the street.

Alcohol can easily be taxed and they know they're getting all of their taxes because people can't just throw together a brewery in their house to make enough to sell on the streets.

Alcohol kills something like 50,000 people each year, MJ kills what, maybe 10. Its all about marketing and profits for our government. They can care less about 50,000 deaths because they are making billions of $$$.

You are way off base. Wild guesses with no basis in reality.

Deaths by Marijuana are about 0.01% of users. A small percentage to be sure.

Deaths by Alcohol are about 0.004% of users, but that number is skewed high because it also includes anyone killed in an alcohol related accident, regardless of use.

http://www.whitehousedrugpolicy.gov/news/press08/Marijuana_2008.pdf
http://www.alcoholalert.com/drunk-driving-statistics.html
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/alcohol.htm

 

[Amish RakeFight]

Do you Support Any of The Arts?

We get it, you and Amish support recreational drug use. Knock yourself out. MJ is against the law and that is all there is to it.

Some of the greatest artists would not be, had it not been for the inspiration of recreational drug use. Artists, musicians, comedians, actors, etc. Those who thrive in the field of arts tend to have a proclivity towards drug use. Drugs tend to expand your mind and some drugs like LSD (which the Gov't created as a truth serum for spies) are so powerful (no one usually dies from LSD either) that they enhance your creative thought process by providing insight while broadening ones mind and perceiving nunances we don't normally pick up on in a sober state.