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Probably because some of us are too old for that!
What you say is true but do it young. It is not an option for career changers unfortunately. Also, you may not be aware that there are some who failed their medicals for entry into military flight programs but were able to get their airline careers off the ground as an alternative choice. I personally know of two that have done just that.
You are lucky, long may you stay that way.
I did military service but not as an aviator and loved every minute. Yes, it is very secure and the money and opportunities are great too. But...do it young!!!
 
I have no regrets, I think I learned when fate wanted me to. There's no other place that I would rather be then right here, right now, enjoying the journey.

"What would you do if you knew you could not fail?"
 
I'm a regional FO who's getting ready to call it quits and go for medicine. For me, the choice has more to do with ambition than anything else. Flying for a living is actually very easy...not much of a challenge (most of the time). I'm the type of person who needs challenge on an intellectual level, and being a physician is all about "life-long learning" (a hated cliche in medicine). After I finish all my training, and after I pay off all the debt I will incur, and after a lenthy career as a physician, I'll probably end up breaking even compared to continuing my career in aviation. I could end up becoming a dermatologist or an orthopod and make tons. Or I could end up becoming a pediatrician or an internist or go into emergency medicine and top out around 120,000. Just depends on what interests me the most during med school.

Medicine comes with headaches...I'm sure you're aware of them. Malpractice premiums (absolutely skyrocketing at this point), managed care, insurance companies that won't pay, etc. So does aviation: unstable at best; a seniority system that doesn't care about merit; very little if any control over your day to day schedule/life; very little prestige; FAA/company constantly cirling your tickets like vultures.

But they're both great professions.

Maybe I'll follow every doctor's advice...become an orthodontist.
 
I never said anything about nuclear thunderstorms. I spoke of storms that have the energy of multiple nuclear bursts. Scientific fact, not my colorful conjecture or opinion. That would be most normal, every day garden variety thunderstorms.
Nothing superhuman about that; why is it that some idiots here need to misquote that into something bizarre and unusual. Yes, of course I've flown over a thunderstorm. Haven't you???

Sleeping in airplanes? You betcha. Living out of them, too...for 10 months out of the year. Sleeping in them, under them, where ever. Criminey, I was living in a **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED** hangar for about a year following the collapse of my marriage.

I never said anything about changing engines in hurricanes. Why feel the need to put words in my mouth? I spoke of working on a ladder that's lashed to an engine in 40 knot winds...and that would be -20 weather, working on wet, leaky radial engines. Lashed, because the ladder walks in the wind, and the airplane is moving around. Or doing the same thing in 115 degree weather in the sun. Or for long stretches in hangars, or wherever. It's called a job. Never done a job, before??

Did I say anything about the X-1? Didn't think so, you dunce.

Full of myself because I feel immensely grateful for the experiences I've been fortuante enough to have? Full of myself because I esteem them as priceless, and believe whole heartedly that nobody could ever pay me enough to give them up or take another course in life? What do you know? Eat dirt.

Good composer but not someone who actually flies? You know this thing? Tell me about it.

I don't believe I ever described seeing the top of a thunderstorm in a C-119...didn't do it. But read into the post what one will...facts seldom seem to matter.
 
I gotta agree with Avbug. The life of an airline pilot, or even regional or corporate, is completly different than that of an Airtanker pilot. I've only been in the tanker business for 4 years and reading his post gave me flash backs. I seen things in my short term that have made my jaw hit the floor board of the cockpit, and never managed to pick it up knowing the fact that I havent seen anything yet. Hot cockpits, long hours, and hellatious conditions that, until you've done it, you can not begin to comprehend.

I can see how some of you may be jaded. I watched 90% of the enrollment at my flight school go from a 172 to a dutchess to a Brazillia or RJ and onward. There is a huge world of aviation out there, and sometimes, passion and pure love for it can end you up living in a hangar and changing cylinders all night. Beyond the cushy glass cockpit, there are alot of guys out there like avbug. Guys that love to work an airplane, and love a working airplane. The point is, before you jump down a guys throat, think outside the box, or your EFIS tube.


Regret simply is not in a real aviators vocabulary.
 
Pilot or MD I've been trying to make the decision for years.

I work with Dick Carl probably one of the most proment physician pilots. He 's a writer for Flying Magazine. I recently asked him how he made the decision to become a MD over a pilot he said he believes that medicine is more challenging. I'm junior in both fields and I concur with his statement. So If you get borred easily and are looking for a extremely challenging field become a MD and buy a GA plane

I love both career fields. If you do not completely love to do one Do not it. I'd say the only stipulation is if you want a family and want to be home most nights when your kids are growing up become a MD. You'll never have to worry about supporting them and you'll be able to see them grow up.

If your looking for wealth and stability become an MD or better yet a Dentist.

In contrast I hear more regret in physician's carreer decisions then I do pilots. It's funny MDs employeed making a ton of cash, but their unhappy. Pilots unemployeed/furloughed no cash and still happy with their carreer decision.
Go ask the same question on an MD disscussion board and you'll find a greater percentage of MD's say to become a pilot.

For me to make the decision to become a pilot is definately the more selfish decsion.
 
Good luck Herman Bloom on becoming a Doc. Enjoy your time at home with your family, and away from nasty hotel rooms!
 
do what you love, love what you do...all the rest is just fluff ;)
 
I've never heard anyone say that medicine is more challenging...I've heard a lot of other reasons (largely monetary) for being an MD over flying. But it does make sense. It's pleasing to hear that viewpoint, over the strictly mercenary financial one. I've been reading Carl's work for a little while now, and enjoy his commentary.

The jump was one of those stupid-me-could-have-prevented-the-whole-thing events. I remember parts of it, and much of it has been filled in for me over the years by folks who were there. I was missing big chunks of it until last year when I did some jumping with a couple of folks who were on the same skydive with me. I'm grateful to one in particular, because she was one who jumped into the place where I landed, and filled me in on some of the details.

I was two years without a skydive, and returned to make three currency jumps, one of which was a malfunction. I borrowed some gear to attend a meet, in which I didn't intend to jump, but pack. I only went there to make a little money packing.

Before the meet, I had injured my right hand. I was up for two days because of some circumstances. I rode down to the meet on a Cessna 411, and fell asleep on the way. I woke up to some yelling and a blast of cold air and saw the last set of feet going out the door. I went after them and was still getting my helmet on as I went out the door...and really woke up when I hit the slipstream.

It was a long spot: I landed in an area full of cactus and mesquite/sage/saltbush. I had intended to pack, but somehow got talked into doing a 2-way skydive. I do remember the exit, the breakoff, and my opening. I had what started as a spinning malfunction, and became a ball of garbage. We were in some relatively stiff winds, but the upper winds were howling, and it was a long spot in some steep country. Instead of being over the DZ, we were nearly over the nearby higher terrain. I was wearing a round reserve, (this was before the Cypress, and AAD's were considered by many of us to be less than satisfactory).

Facing the choice between trying to clear what I had, and cut away over the terrain (much closer to the ground than had we been over the DZ), plus the round reserve in those winds and the turbulence aloft, I elected to keep the malfunction. Probably not a good choice, but then hindsight is always better. I was able to stabilize the spin, had some collapsed cells (but don't have a clear mental picture of the full nature of the malfunction; I think a certain amount of what I actually remember, I've remembered wrong), and cut steering lines, and suspension lines. I used risers to try to stabilize the parachute, but was close to impact at the time, with a higher descent rate at a higher density altitude under a F111 canopy, and impacted the side of a cliff downwind.

My helmet got split, my arm was torn open to the bone. My neck was twisted, and my ankle got rotated about 180 degrees. The other injuries I don't really remember (and don't want to). To the best of my knowledge, I didn't break anything, but I can't fully attest to that either. There are certain details and certain periods during and after that I have very spotty, or no memory of.

A helicopter was called for transportation, and enroute they enquired about my status. They had a second request. They were notified I was a fatal, and they abandoned the response to my location, and went to pick up the next patient. A jeep patrol was sent to my location, but couldn't get to me. Four or five other jumpers landed in my vicinity, and prevented me from walking off the little landing area where I ended up. Over the next five hours, we walked out (which to this day amazes me), to a point where I was recovered by the Sheriff's jeep patrol, and placed on a stretcher. I was then transported to an ambulance, where I was taken to a hospital, and eventually intensive care.

I remember vaguely waking up at one point with a doctor stitching up my right arm, and the doctor asking if I could feel it. I could, I mumbled something about it, and then passed out again.

Later, someone called my mother. I don't remember, but she said I was talking spanish, and that she couldn't understand me. I had no idea where I was, or for a time who I was.

Tinman, you will know some of the details of this jump. If you haven't guessed already, I'm THAT guy...or at least, I was.
 
CRAP-O-RAMA!!!!!!! Absolutely amazing!!!!!!!!! Nope, no skydiving for me.
 
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If you love to fly, dream to fly, you know it and you never come here to ask!!! It is just like falling in Love with your sweetheart, you will marry her despite all failed marriages ....


So if you have to question it ... maybe Med school is a better option.
 
Not quite capnmayday!

Your comments are dreamy and idealistic but maybe that's because you have not been around as long (in this game)as others nor experienced some of the heartaches of this industry/passion. I wish it were that easy!

If you have to question it, it may be because the opportunities are simply not there for some - nothing to do with dreams, hard work, paying your dues or whatever.

The real question is what to do if you are excluded from pusuing your passion when you have already done it, have the quals and experience and know you can do it - just the opportunities are not there? You cannot invite yourself to interviews, right?

Rest assured, if I knew then what I know now, I would have DEFINITELY chosen the med career over and above the flying. I'm pretty sure I would not have had to start over 4 times in 12 years! Beat that if you can.......
 
757 ...

I beg the differ ... I have been in this field for over 6 years ... 3+ lay offs .. never made more than 28K/yr ... still pushing rusty old Navajos ... I have flown in the Arctics, in the south and yelled at by crazy bosses in the middle of Bumble **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED** Nowhere ...

When I started , I never had the funky Uniform, 6 figure salary and secure 9-5 job in mind ... I never cared where I lived or how hard I had to work. 3000 hours later and I am still enjoying it very much. I left a 90K engineering job to fly in the 90s and still no regrets ... If you want to fly ... there are jobs out there ...

If I loose interest, I just go do something else that I enjoy ...
would you fly a Navajo on extended time away from home for $28K/yr? If so ... PM me ...

Capt'n MayDay
 
Tinman, you will know some of the details of this jump. If you haven't guessed already, I'm THAT guy...or at least, I was.
Well Avbug, there are two local skydiving stories from the last 25 some odd years. I didn't put 2 and 2 together until I asked the owner, but I'm guessing that you are one of the them(the other person died so it wasn't you, unless all your posts have come from the other side!:D). All I can say is, d@mn that was a bad day.
 
They say that sometimes you're the windshield, and sometimes the bug. In terms of the tylenol factor, it wasn't a particularly good day. However, right at that moment in my life I was a little conflicted on purpose. I think that the event was sort of a kick in the pants that served to remind me, like some higher power saying, "Hey, you're not dead, yet!"

I looked back on that event as a motivator that suggested there was a reason I wasn't dead. I'm not sure what that reason was or is, but I am certain that once I fulfill whatever it is...I'll be dead.

So in the grand scheme of things, it wasn't such a bad day after all. The only easy day, was yesterday.
 

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