Piedmont MEC rejected LTP Pay rates???

[dirkdigler]

Any thoughts?

 

[WSurf]

Good!!!! We should should atleast get Horizon rates and better!!

US Airways was the most Profitable Airline the last 2 years!!! Show us not only respect, but money!

 

[twighead]

I think they did the right thing. The LTP FO rates sucked and if it went to a vote the senior guys would probably screw us just like the horrible FO jet payrates we have (not to mention the -300 pay).

 

[WSurf]

I think they did the right thing. The LTP FO rates sucked and if it went to a vote the senior guys would probably screw us just like the horrible FO jet payrates we have (not to mention the -300 pay).

I am a Captain at PDT and I would have voted no! Bottom line is that Horizon can make money with there rates, so we can too!

Plus after all the abuse we have suffer thru the last 5 years we need to get PAID!

US Airways has been the most Profitable Airline the last two years!! Grrrrrrrrrr.. Show us some money and respect!

 

[Cpt Oveur]

speaking of Piedmont, I just js on them this weekend. Anyone have an address where I could send an attaboy?

 

[twighead]

I hear ya. It would be great if they could get the CA more money too, but those rates aren't too bad.

However, the rate at 5 years for a FO is $36, which is what a lot of the 50 seat jet FO's make their second year on an airplane that makes no money. That is unacceptable.

 

[BoilerUP]

What exactly were the LTP payrates?

 

[jellynuts]

Captain * First Officer *
Year Rate Year Rate
1 $ 59.60 1 $ 28.50
2 $ 63.85 2 $ 32.81
3 $ 66.33 3 $ 34.17
4 $ 67.94 4 $ 35.51
5 $ 69.30 5 $ 36.86
6 $ 71.07 6 $ 37.50
7 $ 72.82 7 $ 38.15
8 $ 74.34 8 $ 38.48
9 $ 75.71 9 $ 38.79
10 $ 77.13 10 $ 40.07
11 $ 80.54
12 $ 83.09 add +1.75% for every year after 1st year
13 $ 85.77 until the day before the amendable date
14 $ 87.11
15 $ 88.84
16 $ 89.32
17 $ 89.97
18 $ 91.46
19 $ 92.98
20 $ 94.13
21 $ 94.46
22 $ 94.74
23 $ 95.07
24 $ 95.38
25 $ 96.02
add +1.75% for every year after 1st year until the day before the amendable date

 

[FMEpilot]

I suppose that before colgan had Q rates we were in a much better position to negotiate. What happens if colgan flys 400's for Airways?

 

[OPECJet]

400s are still scoped out.

 

[BoilerUP]

Those CA rates don't seem too bad (they are higher than ASA's TA'd 70 seat CA rates through year 7) but the FO rates are awful. Has your NC never heard of paying FOs 60% of CA rates?

How many folks have been at Piedmont 18 or more years?

 

[NCFlyer]

How many folks have been at Piedmont 18 or more years?

108 as of Oct 07

 

[OPECJet]

Management has a history of refusing to negotiate much in the way of FO rates. This was no different.

 

[Quack]

108 as of Oct 07

which is about a 1/4 of the pilot group. is crazy/hilarious BL still on rsv in mdt?

 

[plunger]

Those rates are a heck of a lot better than what we make at PSA.

 

[BoilerUP]

108 as of Oct 07

which is about a 1/4 of the pilot group.

Wow...

 

[OPECJet]

I know it's more than you guys are making at PSA. Hopefully shooting them down will help with that when you guys go to the table.

Now it could get interesting. The company doesn't necessarily have to come back to the table if they're serious about getting some new metal. Our contract allows them to fly a new airplane on the property with no rates in place for a specified amount of time, then go to arbitration on the rates (I think that's how it works anyway. Could be mistaken). One of several different scenarios could play out.

 

[NuGuy]

Management has a history of refusing to negotiate much in the way of FO rates. This was no different.

Yea, they usually depend on that blistering upgrade pace to attract the "quality applicants":laugh: .

Nu

 

[B-J-J Fighter]

Hopefully Colgan can't come in and bottom feed and take the Q400 flying for crap wages.

 

[jellynuts]

Hopefully Colgan can't come in and bottom feed and take the Q400 flying for crap wages.

o they probably will, that's what they excel at!!