Piedmont Hiring

[JoeMerchant]

I think the simplest way to put it is:
RJs are nice to fly.
T-props are fun to fly.

Well said....The RJ is nice, but I miss my ATR....

 

[OPECJet]

I got screwed with more in the NYC area flying a Citation X than I did flying the Dash. Constantly speed restricted in the climb while following an MD-80 out the (insert departure fix here).

In the Dash they step climb you while you keep the speed up. The airplane seems to work well up in that area.

 

[kf4amu]

I got screwed with more in the NYC area flying a Citation X than I did flying the Dash. Constantly speed restricted in the climb while following an MD-80 out the (insert departure fix here).

In the Dash they step climb you while you keep the speed up. The airplane seems to work well up in that area.

This is why it's difficult explaining to people that a jet doesnt get you there 50 percent faster because it can fly 50 percent faster.

 

[dash_trash]

What do people like about flying it? Any examples?

A few of the things I like about the Mighty Dash-8 ...

Getting vectors to see if you can make the visual into PHL ... 900' on the south shore of the river ... cross the numbers on runway 35 at 86 knots and flaps 35.

Landing on runway 15 in DCA and holding short of 1/19

Shortest landing roll ... runway 23 in ORF for MX ... on the numbers and made the right turn to the old MX hanger ... ~6-700 feet ... just because.

Doing the locked wheel (boeing) turn when taxing into position ... just to show mainline you can do it to.

Low altitude "back" routes to avoid ground stops/delays and not have to worry about fuel.

Carry a boat load of ice.


Back on topic ...

Sent Bob Trout the "updated" resume a couple week ago ... originally started at PDT in '99, left in '03 ... furloughed in '08 but hey, got to fly a jet all over the country! :bomb: :laugh: :bomb: ... nothing like giving up 12 years seniority and possibly starting over at the bottom, again ... wonder if I have to do the whole interview/sim eval thing, again?

 

[hockeypilot44]

A few of the things I like about the Mighty Dash-8 ...

Getting vectors to see if you can make the visual into PHL ... 900' on the south shore of the river ... cross the numbers on runway 35 at 86 knots and flaps 35.

Landing on runway 15 in DCA and holding short of 1/19

Shortest landing roll ... runway 23 in ORF for MX ... on the numbers and made the right turn to the old MX hanger ... ~6-700 feet ... just because.

Doing the locked wheel (boeing) turn when taxing into position ... just to show mainline you can do it to.

Low altitude "back" routes to avoid ground stops/delays and not have to worry about fuel.

Carry a boat load of ice.


Back on topic ...

Sent Bob Trout the "updated" resume a couple week ago ... originally started at PDT in '99, left in '03 ... furloughed in '08 but hey, got to fly a jet all over the country! :bomb: :laugh: :bomb: ... nothing like giving up 12 years seniority and possibly starting over at the bottom, again ... wonder if I have to do the whole interview/sim eval thing, again?

Ouch. Isn't there somewhere else you can apply that pays better?

 

[OPECJet]

Ouch. Isn't there somewhere else you can apply that pays better?

I couldn't bring myself to go through that misery again... I thought about it for about 1.426 microseconds, but no way I'm going back to a 2 leg commute and reserve hell.

Dash, who furloughed you?

 

[B727FA]

Yea the airbuses are old, most of the UA and US airbuses still fly on Windows 98.

And Hubble isn't using a Pentium chip. What's your point?

 

[dash_trash]

I couldn't bring myself to go through that misery again... I thought about it for about 1.426 microseconds, but no way I'm going back to a 2 leg commute and reserve hell.

Dash, who furloughed you?

Flight Options ...

Not current as I haven't flown in about two years and no 121 in seven, so it really limits who will even look at my resume. I don't have to worry about a commute as I'm stuck just south of SBY :crying: uke::cryingalways open) due to my wife's position with NASA.

PDT is about plan "Z" in my options ... It'll be hard to find a bigger slacker of an FO! :laugh:

 

[WSurf]

It'll be hard to find a bigger slacker of an FO! :laugh:

You'll fit right back in then!

 

[OPECJet]

Flight Options ...

Not current as I haven't flown in about two years and no 121 in seven, so it really limits who will even look at my resume. I don't have to worry about a commute as I'm stuck just south of SBY :crying: uke::cryingalways open) due to my wife's position with NASA.

PDT is about plan "Z" in my options ... It'll be hard to find a bigger slacker of an FO! :laugh:

That sounds about right. I managed to get one interview and they didn't think it went as well as I did....:laugh:

If you're in SBY it might not be so bad going back to PDT. At least the airplane is fun, and the two most famous schedulers from when we were there are now gone.

 

[Caveman]

No you don't get pushed around in the NYC Area. If anything we get slowed all the time.
The things you can do in the Dash 8 are incredible. You could be 3000' on a 3 mile final and still stick it on the numbers.
You can take off from Hilton Head with 33 pax and be off the ground in 1500 feet.
I liked our reply last winter during a snow storm. Piedmont say breaking action! Our reply......... Sorry we didn't have to use brakes
The Dash 8 is a very, very forgiving airplane.
Dash 8 200/300 have the UNS-B's. The 100's have the old KNS660's.

I can make an airplane (even *gasp* an RJ) do some 'incredible' things too but I got all of that 'incredible' stuff out of my system flying GA airplanes. Nowadays my goal is to get them there safely, quickly and with as little drama as possible. It may not be as 'incredible' but it's a heck of a lot more professional. The reason you generally don't see mainline a/c doing 'incredible' things is judgement. Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

BTW, we once had to do a go-around in LaGarbage because a Trash-8 couldn't figure out how to execute the Expressway visual and clear before he crossed 4/22. Incredible.......

 

[kf4amu]

I can make an airplane (even *gasp* an RJ) do some 'incredible' things too but I got all of that 'incredible' stuff out of my system flying GA airplanes. Nowadays my goal is to get them there safely, quickly and with as little drama as possible. It may not be as 'incredible' but it's a heck of a lot more professional. The reason you generally don't see mainline a/c doing 'incredible' things is judgement. Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

BTW, we once had to do a go-around in LaGarbage because a Trash-8 couldn't figure out how to execute the Expressway visual and clear before he crossed 4/22. Incredible.......

We got some bush league pilots just like anywhere else. The trash 8 knows how to do anything except go fast in cruise.

Things that are incredible for an rj are boring for a dash...not that it's unprofessional or unsafe, it's just a fact you can do more with a dash and still be safe.

 

[quinnlake]

I can make an airplane (even *gasp* an RJ) do some 'incredible' things too but I got all of that 'incredible' stuff out of my system flying GA airplanes. Nowadays my goal is to get them there safely, quickly and with as little drama as possible. It may not be as 'incredible' but it's a heck of a lot more professional. The reason you generally don't see mainline a/c doing 'incredible' things is judgement. Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

BTW, we once had to do a go-around in LaGarbage because a Trash-8 couldn't figure out how to execute the Expressway visual and clear before he crossed 4/22. Incredible.......

I've been on the jumpseat of a main line flight and saw them reach 370 knots at 3000 ft on a go around.

You're missing Surf's point, you can decend faster, stop shorter and turn tighter in a dash, pilot skill being equal. Professional? Get a clue. Surf is one of the most professonal pilots I've flown with.

 

[Caveman]

Things that are incredible for an rj are boring for a dash...not that it's unprofessional or unsafe, it's just a fact you can do more with a dash and still be safe.

Slam dunking from 3 miles out at 3000' may be in your comfort zone but I guarantee you nobody in the back is feeling safe. That's what I mean when I say just because you can doesn't mean you should.

 

[Caveman]

You're missing Surf's point, you can decend faster, stop shorter and turn tighter in a dash, pilot skill being equal. Professional? Get a clue. Surf is one of the most professonal pilots I've flown with.

No you're missing the point. I'm not questioning Surfs' skill or safety.
This isn't a question of which airplane can do what. It's a question of whether or not you should do something just because the airplane is physically capable of doing it. Why do you think pax have an unreasonable fear of t-props? Compared to their last flight on a 737 the t-prop high downwind, tight turn to final, slam dunk with a max reverse decel to make the first turnoff is a nightmare. They don't understand. From a pilot's point of view that's fun. From their point of view it's terrifying.

 

[kf4amu]

Point taken but it doesn't make it unsafe. Passengers may not understand but pilots do, and that's the point being made, it's fun as hell to fly.

 

[Caveman]

Agreed.

 

[WSurf]

I can make an airplane (even *gasp* an RJ) do some 'incredible' things too but I got all of that 'incredible' stuff out of my system flying GA airplanes. Nowadays my goal is to get them there safely, quickly and with as little drama as possible. It may not be as 'incredible' but it's a heck of a lot more professional. The reason you generally don't see mainline a/c doing 'incredible' things is judgement. Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

BTW, we once had to do a go-around in LaGarbage because a Trash-8 couldn't figure out how to execute the Expressway visual and clear before he crossed 4/22. Incredible.......

You just know the limitation of your plane! I was in a mainline jumpseat on a boeing 737 and the captain showed me some cool stuff. Unsafe??? No... He just has the time and knows the limitations of his plane.
There are thing I know I can and can't do in a Dash. You got some learning to do boy.

 

[LearLove]

BTW, we once had to do a go-around in LaGarbage because a Trash-8 couldn't figure out how to execute the Expressway visual and clear before he crossed 4/22. Incredible.......

you mean you couldn't handle/figure out how to space yourself out - basic airmanship.

 

[WSurf]

And I read the tread of a few RJs guys can't avoid P-56 in DCA also. Whew!! Trash 8 guys can figure that out. Hmmmm..

Anyway its all good!