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fowingman

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anyone hear any thing either positive or negative, and any thing substative, not just speculation, i mean i would guess 2 to 2.5 years left, but i have no hard proof just reasoing based on other info!
 
Yes, you are getting B717's with express on the side and you will be paid the same rate as Mesa 1900. Or the jets will go to....i dunno pick an airline you hate! Parker will then say it was your fault you are working for those low rates because you signed the contract. The parasite, unethical management group will get a big bonus and you will have to pay more for medical insurance. Plus gas will go to $4/gallon and the reserve pay you make will just cover your transportation costs back and forth to work. Your wife and kids will lose all respect for you and even your parents wish you were the lawn care guy cause at least he has a job that pays the rent. People will start asking if you are doing drugs, your thin, pale, malnourished, tired, unmotivate, and lazy. Passengers will think you are just an overpaid drunk with nothing better to do then just complain.

But no, you are just a regional airline pilot, a managements Pawn.
 
ex j-41 said:
Yes, you are getting B717's with express on the side and you will be paid the same rate as Mesa 1900. Or the jets will go to....i dunno pick an airline you hate! Parker will then say it was your fault you are working for those low rates because you signed the contract. The parasite, unethical management group will get a big bonus and you will have to pay more for medical insurance. Plus gas will go to $4/gallon and the reserve pay you make will just cover your transportation costs back and forth to work. Your wife and kids will lose all respect for you and even your parents wish you were the lawn care guy cause at least he has a job that pays the rent. People will start asking if you are doing drugs, your thin, pale, malnourished, tired, unmotivate, and lazy. Passengers will think you are just an overpaid drunk with nothing better to do then just complain.

But no, you are just a regional airline pilot, a managements Pawn.


WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. Get another job flying if you hate the pay so much. You're the one who wanted to be Al Haynes rather than Rod Machado.
 
PDT will either end up getting those 400s everyone's been talking about, or we'll be in the unemployment line within 2 yrs.

If the rate of things breaking and not getting fixed is any indicator, the writing is on the wall.
 
Taken from the SEC website...

The Debtors' flight operations encompass the "mainline" operations of
USAI, as well as the operations of four wholly owned subsidiaries of Group that
operate or are projected to operate commuter aircraft as US Airways Express
carriers ("Express"). The Projections assume an operating fleet plan of 279
aircraft for USAI's operations for 2003 through 2009, with the introduction of
29 regional jets by the Express carriers in 2003, increasing to 168 regional
jets by the end of 2009. The elimination of the entire turboprop fleet of the
Express carriers is to be completed by the end of 2008.

But they also said.....

AVIATION FUEL: Increases in the number of flights by regional jets
accounts for the increase in fuel costs throughout the projection period. The
crude oil price is assumed to be $27 per barrel in 2003 and $25 per barrel in
2004 and thereafter (excluding tax).

And these people make how much?
http://www.secinfo.com/dsvR3.v15v.htm
 
I sincerely hope PDT survives but who knows these days... It will all come down to economics and customers' ability to put up with delapidated aircraft - although economics will matter far more...

I have always admired the mighty Dash 8 - it looks fun to fly and very durable (you can crunch it a bit on landings and not worry too much)...
 
As far as I know, the turboprops gone bby 2008 was a Seigal thing. The leases on the -300s except for 1 or 2 were extended through 2009.

Signs are pointing to that 2008 thing as being null and void.
 
In many markets those Dash 8's are full to the brim. Why shut down a good thing? Oh...wait....U management often does that.

OK, I give it three years. You'll be integrated with PSA into a new WO, called: PSPDAT. It will stand for nothing in particular. The employees will fight. The wages will plummet. Morale won't be a factor, as there will be none. Management will party like it's Fall of 2001!
 
Then of course there is the fact that the pilot contract becomes amendable in 2009. Expect management to being the "concessions or we die" rain dance.

Whatever, I really would rather close the doors than accept another concessionary contract.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
 
BeCareful! said:
In many markets those Dash 8's are full to the brim. Why shut down a good thing? Oh...wait....U management often does that.

OK, I give it three years. You'll be integrated with PSA into a new WO, called: PSPDAT. It will stand for nothing in particular. The employees will fight. The wages will plummet. Morale won't be a factor, as there will be none. Management will party like it's Fall of 2001!



Any sunshine in your life Captain?:rolleyes:



PHXFLYR:cool:
 
LowlyPropCapt said:
Then of course there is the fact that the pilot contract becomes amendable in 2009. Expect management to being the "concessions or we die" rain dance.

Whatever, I really would rather close the doors than accept another concessionary contract.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

yep thats what is going to happen, good call. Too bad our MEC are a bunch of FAGS, we are screwed. Really dont come here, and if you do leave ASAP!!
 
Concessionary contract? Well, they probably will want us to pay them to come to work.

Shut 'er down.
 
OPECJet said:
Concessionary contract? Well, they probably will want us to pay them to come to work.

Shut 'er down.

In the meantime... I'm not doing any favors. If it's broke, write it up. It you are at an outstation at 2100, so be it.
 
I don't know about the future, but you can download 'Da Daily from the website now as well as rag on hotels.
Wellsley Inn is gonna get it one of these days...:puke:
 
Wellesley?

What's so bad about the Wellesley? Free beach cruiser bikes to ride. Go across the road and there is a good bakery and an excellent, cheap, pizza joint, Broadway, with huge slices. If you are getting in after 10, call an order in from the bar and it will be waiting when you get in late. They even take meal vouchers if you have one. It may be cold, but it's better than no food if you didn't have time to eat in the evening. The servers in the bar are nice, and food is priced average for a hotel rest. I don't find anything about the continental breakfast to complain about in the morning. Clean pool in the summer and the workout equipment works, more than you can say about most of the other hotels. I've never gotten a dirty hotel room. Free Wireless internet that always works, at least for me. It may not have big name stores to walk to like BTV, but there are small ones across the road.
I will say van arrival times leave something to be desired on occasion, but we normally have long layovers there, so get over it. Everyone complains about a HPN overnight, but doesn't give specific reasons. I'm kinda curious what the beef is with the place?
 
PHXFLYR said:
Any sunshine in your life Captain?:rolleyes:



PHXFLYR:cool:


Absolutely, there, Internet dweller. The wife and kids are great, the weather's been stunning where I reside, and Floyd Landis won the Tour de France!!!!!!!!!!

I was just poking a little fun at the question at hand. Is there a problem with that, or is that a style of post only active mainline pilots are allowed to write?:laugh:
 
If you're complaining about HPN, it means you haven't been to FLO enough. That place makes a cheap dollar whore house look like a palace.
 
I have been to FLO...The truck stop by the interstate 95 takes the cake. Holding cell entry foyer adds an interesting touch.

Regarding HPN, where do I begin. The bar management sometimes closes when there's "not enough business". So if you get in after 9 on Sunday, you're s--t out of luck.

Prices are reasonable? Compared to what? Manhattan?

Beach bikes? Everytime I am in that hellhole, it rains. That, and the pizza joint is a good hike.

Paper thin walls, and it seems like crew rooms are always in the back (probably a good half a mile walk down the corridors)

And lastly, what's with the first conference rooom upstairs, on the left? "Myanus"? Did they forget to profread the room tag before it was put up?

(Ok, I am not complaining about the last one. I just think it's weird)
 
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"Myanus"? That's a riot.
 

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