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PhatAJ2008
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I can't figure out if this whole thread is a joke or not. I get the disturbing feeling it is not. Could someone educate us on what happened here? I thought BMA had a court order effectively prohibiting them from operating the 727's in scheduled service (due to union-busting and associated lawsuit). I guess I'm a bit behind. But it seems like anyone flying these 727's is a scab. Also, a scab with very little job security...
BMA has about the worst reputation possible in aviation. And that's in an industry where a bad reputation is the norm. Oh how the Pan Am name has fallen...
BMA has about the worst reputation possible in aviation. And that's in an industry where a bad reputation is the norm. Oh how the Pan Am name has fallen...
I worked for Boston Maine for 3 years. Trust me, you do not want to go there as a pilot for the long term. Go there to get some experience, then get the hell out. You don't want to stick around there even if you not a pilot. They have been trying for years to expand beyond their present 3 727s. There have asked for permission from the DOT to fly the Pan Am 727s. As you may know, they shut down Pan AM last Oct. They had the best thing going for them by operating them and could have expanded that 727 operation, even if it was ALPA.
But the bossman hates unions. So he and his cronies shut it down when they thought they could easily transfer the Pan Am 727 ops to Boston Maine. But its not working out. To see the DOT trail go to www.dot.dms.gov. Under simple search type in "7668". This is their docket number for the DOT. Read their DOT battles, I suggest you do a reverse history on that web site, its quite a record.
They have never stayed in a market. They go in, try it out for a few months, and then pull the plug. Don't buy any tickets longer than a week in advance.
But the bossman hates unions. So he and his cronies shut it down when they thought they could easily transfer the Pan Am 727 ops to Boston Maine. But its not working out. To see the DOT trail go to www.dot.dms.gov. Under simple search type in "7668". This is their docket number for the DOT. Read their DOT battles, I suggest you do a reverse history on that web site, its quite a record.
They have never stayed in a market. They go in, try it out for a few months, and then pull the plug. Don't buy any tickets longer than a week in advance.
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Go ahead and hate YNG. My hate began with the Piper Pilot on here who went off on me since I made a decision for my future by leaving a union. So call me a scab.
I don't care what you all say about this airline. If people like it they will fly it and I will fly it as well. I want to help me airport grow and get big and you guys have to hate this airline. Well guess what PAX don't study airlines like you........They look at the deal and the planes and the destinations and fly it.
So it is suceeding in version 4 with 4 add on destinations and ZERO losses.
And add the fact they fli 727s; Why wouldnt you fly it!
I am a supporter of the service.
I don't care what you all say about this airline. If people like it they will fly it and I will fly it as well. I want to help me airport grow and get big and you guys have to hate this airline. Well guess what PAX don't study airlines like you........They look at the deal and the planes and the destinations and fly it.
So it is suceeding in version 4 with 4 add on destinations and ZERO losses.
And add the fact they fli 727s; Why wouldnt you fly it!
I am a supporter of the service.
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They do fly 727s, yes, but they only have 3 of them operating. They have a lot more Jetstream turboprops, which is what you will see at YNG most of the time, if they ever start there. Boston and Maine, the real name of the airline, is not an employee friendly outfit, hence the anger from the board. They just happen to have the good ole' PanAm logo on the side.
I think you are taking this a bit to personally. Will YNG grow? Probably. Maybe. Who Knows. What will the economy do? Where are fuel prices going to be next year? Is the US mainland going to get atttacked again in a major fashion (I sure hope not). Totally out of our control. Also, what was that you said about the airport manager delayed B&Ms start date? I doubt it. Since when does the airport dictate an airlines schedule? Sounds like a bunch of PR Bull to me. Good luck with the airport.
As for #4 incarnation, you will probably see #5 next year. Different incorporation papers, but mostly the same people running the show.
I think you are taking this a bit to personally. Will YNG grow? Probably. Maybe. Who Knows. What will the economy do? Where are fuel prices going to be next year? Is the US mainland going to get atttacked again in a major fashion (I sure hope not). Totally out of our control. Also, what was that you said about the airport manager delayed B&Ms start date? I doubt it. Since when does the airport dictate an airlines schedule? Sounds like a bunch of PR Bull to me. Good luck with the airport.
As for #4 incarnation, you will probably see #5 next year. Different incorporation papers, but mostly the same people running the show.
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YNGAirport
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Geronimo they only fly the Jetstreams between Bedford, MASS and Trenton and down in Puerto Rico.
All the flights outta YNG are on 727s like I stated on my flight schedule on my website. I called the airport and the airline and they both said that.
The airport manager saw the seats weren't selling in October; who could blame him; they held a meeting and there was a glitch in Pan Am's system. Then when it came back it was November. So I donno who called the meeting but Pan Am came to YNG to talk about it
All the flights outta YNG are on 727s like I stated on my flight schedule on my website. I called the airport and the airline and they both said that.
The airport manager saw the seats weren't selling in October; who could blame him; they held a meeting and there was a glitch in Pan Am's system. Then when it came back it was November. So I donno who called the meeting but Pan Am came to YNG to talk about it
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YNGAirport wrote: "My hate began with the Piper Pilot on here who went off on me since I made a decision for my future by leaving a union. So call me a scab."
Scab.
What a pathe....
...never mind. There's nothing lower than a scab.
Keep trying different dosages. One of them is bound to make you smarter!
Scab.
What a pathe....
...never mind. There's nothing lower than a scab.
Keep trying different dosages. One of them is bound to make you smarter!
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Video: CLICK HERE:: [URL=http://www.wytv.com/news....deo=YHI[/URL]]http://www.wytv.com/news/local/1738212.html?video=YHI[/URL]
The Western Reserve Port Authority wants to give you more reasons to book a flight out of the Youngstown-Warren Regional Airport.
As Peggy Sinkovich reports, the Port Authority is hoping to soon give out value packages to those booking a flight on Pan Am.
If you are flying out of the Youngstown-Warren Regional Airport, officials want to give you one more thing to put in your suitcase, and this is something you won't want to leave without.
The CVB wants to provide a valu pak to each passenger on a Pan Am flight leaving from Youngstown.
Billie Jo Zimmerman of the Trumbull Tourism and Information Center says, "The valu pak we want to give will give discounts to hotel, attractions, restaurants anything tourism related, that would draw visitors to there."
Valu paks will also be available for our area, these paks will include discount tickets for area attractions like Wagon Trail Animal Park.
Zimmerman said that each valu pak will have a value from $700 to $1500.
Officials are hoping the paks will encourage people to fly out of the Youngstown-Warren Regional Airport.
Trumbull County Commissioner Dan Polivka says, "The value paks, everyone is looking for a deal and I think this is going to be a great incentive for people to come to our area and utilize our airport.."
In the next few weeks, Zimmerman plans to meet with visitor boards in Florida, Puerto Rico, Boston and New York in hopes of promoting the Mahoning Valley.
Alex Bertok of Wagon Trails Animal Park says, "I think it's a wonderful idea to promote the area if we all work together, I think that's what we would ask for."
Will the valu paks be good on only certain flights?
The valu paks will be good for all Pan Am flights going to Florida, Puerto Rico, Boston and New York.
We were also told that officials are hoping to have the paks in place when the flights start in November.
This is a great idea for people to use the airline. Though they did not add it to the story posted; they did talk with the sales man for the airport and they said they were in talks with 3 more airlines with a demonstration to Delta last week and one this or next week.
YA.. SCAB you want! Unions are gay!
The Western Reserve Port Authority wants to give you more reasons to book a flight out of the Youngstown-Warren Regional Airport.
As Peggy Sinkovich reports, the Port Authority is hoping to soon give out value packages to those booking a flight on Pan Am.
If you are flying out of the Youngstown-Warren Regional Airport, officials want to give you one more thing to put in your suitcase, and this is something you won't want to leave without.
The CVB wants to provide a valu pak to each passenger on a Pan Am flight leaving from Youngstown.
Billie Jo Zimmerman of the Trumbull Tourism and Information Center says, "The valu pak we want to give will give discounts to hotel, attractions, restaurants anything tourism related, that would draw visitors to there."
Valu paks will also be available for our area, these paks will include discount tickets for area attractions like Wagon Trail Animal Park.
Zimmerman said that each valu pak will have a value from $700 to $1500.
Officials are hoping the paks will encourage people to fly out of the Youngstown-Warren Regional Airport.
Trumbull County Commissioner Dan Polivka says, "The value paks, everyone is looking for a deal and I think this is going to be a great incentive for people to come to our area and utilize our airport.."
In the next few weeks, Zimmerman plans to meet with visitor boards in Florida, Puerto Rico, Boston and New York in hopes of promoting the Mahoning Valley.
Alex Bertok of Wagon Trails Animal Park says, "I think it's a wonderful idea to promote the area if we all work together, I think that's what we would ask for."
Will the valu paks be good on only certain flights?
The valu paks will be good for all Pan Am flights going to Florida, Puerto Rico, Boston and New York.
We were also told that officials are hoping to have the paks in place when the flights start in November.
This is a great idea for people to use the airline. Though they did not add it to the story posted; they did talk with the sales man for the airport and they said they were in talks with 3 more airlines with a demonstration to Delta last week and one this or next week.
YA.. SCAB you want! Unions are gay!
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YNGAirport said:
Yeah, because they've been so successful in the past.
I mean, who can forget PeopleExpress or New York Air? Actually, come to think of it, almost everyone has forgotten about them. They were praised by the newspapers, by TV, by anti-union morons like yourself, and by everyone in between. Of course, they're long since gone. I guess you just can't make any money flying a 747 from New York to London when you only charge $99 for a seat, no matter how underpaid and mistreated your non-union workers are. You'll soon find out that you can't make any money flying a 727 into a hole like YNG either.Frickin' SCAB.
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