Pan Am Clipper Connection

[YNGAirport]

I have really done a lot of research and phone calls on this airline and I love it. Not because it is offering service here in Youngstown but how it has been doing and expanding as of late. Sure they had the problems with the Airline Pilots Union and problems with getting 2-3 more 727s in service because of it but they are really helping small airports grow....

They are a lowcost/lowfare airline with fares beginning at 79 bucks.. They average at 115 dollars.....

They fly to:

Portsmouth,NH (PSM)
Pease International Airport
Sanford, FL (SFB)
Orlando Sanford International Airport
Newburgh, NY (SWF)
Stewart International Airport
Trenton, NJ (TNN)
Trenton Mercer Airport
Bedford, MA (BED)
Hanscom Field
Columbus, OH (LCK)
Rickenbacker International Airport
Youngstown, OH (YNG)
Warren Regional Airport
Clearwater, FL (PIE)
St. Petersburg-Clearwater Intl Airport
San Juan, PR (SJU)
Luis Munoz Marin International Airport
Santo Domingo, DR (SDQ)
Las Americas International Airport
Aguadilla, PR (BQN)
Rafael Hernandez Airport

And from the sound of the success in Newburgh, NY;; More destinations will be added very soon.

PAN AM CLIPPER CONNECTION WEBSITE
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[Diesel]

are you kidding me?

I mean really are you kidding me?

What a sh!t box operation.

 

[YNGAirport]

No. No I am not. I run this YNG Site: CLICK HERE

Okay I have done my research and for you in the Airline Pilots Union; I could careless. I am a GOP and can't stand any union locally and it continues here. Many low fare airlines are nonunion and I dont see why Pan Am couldn't.... Trust me when those extra planes are approved to come in service; You will see this airline expand a lot.

 

[TrafficInSight]

I don't understand the name Pan Am in this context

 

[Flyer74]

Now, that funny!

 

[Diesel]

Yeah that non union thing is working out well for southwest.

Flambait anyone?

Or is this guy just a loser

 

[Geronimo4497]

You know, this airline has some serious problems. I have heard them declare 2 emergencies for maintenance reasons since January. This happened while I was in the air and only know about it because I heard it on the frequency. I'm sure there are more occurances that have happened. They will be out of YNG by the end of December. Quote me on that.

 

[Diesel]

wow looking at that website it looks like someone built a terminal and forgot to add people.

Gayest thing i've ever seen.

 

[YNGAirport]

How dare you make fun of my website. I'd love to see you do better.

And no I am not an airport geek who cares about one airport.. I fly a lot outta PIT; CAK; CLE and all the haters on every board think this will fail but I bet it won't... I am waiting 3 weeks to buy my tix for it for Feb and I am confident it will be here by then...

I fly USAIR; Airtran; USA300; and my friend in Columbus flew aboard Pan Am to SFB and loved it. I know I will too.

 

[YNGAirport]

O ya Why don't you check this out as well..

http://www.jetphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=25255

This guy also lvoed it

 

[Diesel]

I love how it says they've pushed back the startup date from YNG. Trust me I wouldn't be painting any of the gates anytime soon.

 

[YNGAirport]

The airport director wanted it changed because like so many airlines; September-October are slow for airtravel and it be smart for it so start in the holiday season..

I think its better as well.

 

[EatSleepFly]

They will be out of YNG by the end of December. Quote me on that.

I'd also put money on that. Airlines and YNG don't have a great track record.

I can't imagine why...

 

[YNGAirport]

What? The reason the NWA' USAIR; UNITED left because well Pittsburgh was losing flights with USAIR. NWA and United had to leave after 9/11 like many airlines did at many airports.

Vacation Express last year was shitty and this is truly our first shot at PASSENGER AIRLINE SERVICE. I also know Allegiant Air and Delta are in discussions with the airport.

 

[TR4A]

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y191/DeltaRules/137_3718.jpg

In this photo of Gate 1 there is picture that appears to be Howard Hughes' HK-1 Hercules (aka Spruce Goose). What is the connection with this upstart Pan Am and the "flying boat"? Are they trying to show the passengers the history of this airline?


I flew for Pan American World Airways and this is not the original Pan Am.

 

[jws717]

Half their fleet is in scrap at the sfb airport, they must be using them for parts, the old 727 in pan am paint are nice to see. But the operation is ghetto to the max. its like SW or Jet blue on crack! Wait not eaven its like Pace or Transmaridian on Crack!

 

[YNGAirport]

OK.. This is VERSION 4 of Pan Am.

So far it has added--Newburgh--Youngstown--Columbus--St. Pete..

It has left----NOWHERE.

They want to ADD more destinations for the airports as it expands westward.

Say what you want comparing this airline with the airline of V3 From 2004.. This is 4 for 4. That well sucked... Different Pilots but so far its done well.

So go ahead and criticize it

 

[Geronimo4497]

Expands westward with what extra equipment? Is the Jetstream production line starting up again? I must have missed the memo.............


YIKES

 

[TurboS7]

scary

 

[YNGAirport]

okay dude let the world know!

I don't care. Unions SUCK and if you are in one get outta it. I make 6 figures now with a financial firm and its because I crossed!

ya i am a SCAB!

I dont care. I am proud of what I did.

 

[TurboS7]

Welcome to the real flight info-

 

[PhatAJ2008]

I'll fly anything that still opperates the 727's..

 

[mckpickle]

Remind me to dump the lav the next time I fly over YNG.

This guys a freakin idiot!!! PAN AM is a smoking hole waiting to happen. Hopefully this douche will be on-board.

 

[ackattacker]

I can't figure out if this whole thread is a joke or not. I get the disturbing feeling it is not. Could someone educate us on what happened here? I thought BMA had a court order effectively prohibiting them from operating the 727's in scheduled service (due to union-busting and associated lawsuit). I guess I'm a bit behind. But it seems like anyone flying these 727's is a scab. Also, a scab with very little job security...

BMA has about the worst reputation possible in aviation. And that's in an industry where a bad reputation is the norm. Oh how the Pan Am name has fallen...

 

[CA1900]

OK.. This is VERSION 4 of Pan Am.

So far it has added--Newburgh--Youngstown--Columbus--St. Pete..

It has left----NOWHERE.

That'll be a surprise to the ground support folks in Bangor who are out of a job now.

 

[OviedoBob]

I worked for Boston Maine for 3 years. Trust me, you do not want to go there as a pilot for the long term. Go there to get some experience, then get the hell out. You don't want to stick around there even if you not a pilot. They have been trying for years to expand beyond their present 3 727s. There have asked for permission from the DOT to fly the Pan Am 727s. As you may know, they shut down Pan AM last Oct. They had the best thing going for them by operating them and could have expanded that 727 operation, even if it was ALPA.

But the bossman hates unions. So he and his cronies shut it down when they thought they could easily transfer the Pan Am 727 ops to Boston Maine. But its not working out. To see the DOT trail go to www.dot.dms.gov. Under simple search type in "7668". This is their docket number for the DOT. Read their DOT battles, I suggest you do a reverse history on that web site, its quite a record.

They have never stayed in a market. They go in, try it out for a few months, and then pull the plug. Don't buy any tickets longer than a week in advance.

 

[YNGAirport]

Go ahead and hate YNG. My hate began with the Piper Pilot on here who went off on me since I made a decision for my future by leaving a union. So call me a scab.

I don't care what you all say about this airline. If people like it they will fly it and I will fly it as well. I want to help me airport grow and get big and you guys have to hate this airline. Well guess what PAX don't study airlines like you........They look at the deal and the planes and the destinations and fly it.

So it is suceeding in version 4 with 4 add on destinations and ZERO losses.

And add the fact they fli 727s; Why wouldnt you fly it!

I am a supporter of the service.

 

[Geronimo4497]

They do fly 727s, yes, but they only have 3 of them operating. They have a lot more Jetstream turboprops, which is what you will see at YNG most of the time, if they ever start there. Boston and Maine, the real name of the airline, is not an employee friendly outfit, hence the anger from the board. They just happen to have the good ole' PanAm logo on the side.


I think you are taking this a bit to personally. Will YNG grow? Probably. Maybe. Who Knows. What will the economy do? Where are fuel prices going to be next year? Is the US mainland going to get atttacked again in a major fashion (I sure hope not). Totally out of our control. Also, what was that you said about the airport manager delayed B&Ms start date? I doubt it. Since when does the airport dictate an airlines schedule? Sounds like a bunch of PR Bull to me. Good luck with the airport.

As for #4 incarnation, you will probably see #5 next year. Different incorporation papers, but mostly the same people running the show.

 

[YNGAirport]

Geronimo they only fly the Jetstreams between Bedford, MASS and Trenton and down in Puerto Rico.

All the flights outta YNG are on 727s like I stated on my flight schedule on my website. I called the airport and the airline and they both said that.

The airport manager saw the seats weren't selling in October; who could blame him; they held a meeting and there was a glitch in Pan Am's system. Then when it came back it was November. So I donno who called the meeting but Pan Am came to YNG to talk about it

 

[Occam's Razor]

YNGAirport wrote: "My hate began with the Piper Pilot on here who went off on me since I made a decision for my future by leaving a union. So call me a scab."

Scab.

What a pathe....

...never mind. There's nothing lower than a scab.

Keep trying different dosages. One of them is bound to make you smarter!