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Why do you personally care what anyone believes? How does it effect your day-to-day existence? Do you get wood over questioning peoples faith. Does it make you feel smarter..more manly? Are you on some sort of crusade to change the majority of the world? Why is my beliefs important to you? What is your end goal?

I find it ironic and a bit hypocritical that you spend as much, if not more, time trying debunk faith than most people of faith do practicing it. Your "religion" is the pursuit of the destruction of someones beliefs.

I am sure you find some sort of perverse enjoyment in your sophomoric attacks against those of faith. If that is what fills your ego, continue.

I feel sorry for you......you seem to be a sad little soul.
 
That's a very good point Jungle. I don't get wood questioning people's faith. We almost had a person in this last election a heartbeat from the presidency who thinks the earth is 6000 years old. We have politicians making decisions based on mythology and not on reason. That is why I care. The non-believers are not 2 percent, they are closer to 10 percent and growing. People who don't believe in any particular religion but think maybe there's something supernatural is 25 percent and growing. We are a big minority, but no one ever speaks up. I'm sick of that. This thread was about evangelical nut jobs putting a cross in another religion's sacred area. I think that's wrong, and believe in all of their rights to believe what they want. You tell me you believe in a bearded man in the sky...great. Just don't start trashing science, that's when I will take you to task. I'm not trashing your belief, but I will trash you when you start trying to say stupid things like the earth is 6000 years old. (that's an example, I know you didn't say that.)
 
I did not question science...only showed that some prove it on a daily basis...and that evolution stutters a bit with some people.

I never said I believe in a bearded man...you assumed that. It is not as simple of those without faith would believe.

Again, you feel empowered by "trashing" someones beliefs. You tell me you believe in science..great. (as do I) If I did not, I would not "TRASH" your beliefs or "take you to task"..not my job. It is not my personal responsibility to challenge your beliefs.

You seem to take pleasure in knocking someones faith...then claim you do not care but it is more than clear that you. You seem conflicted.

I stand by my previous post and feel more strongly about it. Good luck on your quest.

Let me ask you this. When you took your oath as a commissioned officer, what did you say at the end? Have you flown in combat and if so, did you leave the room when the chaplain came into pray with the crew (if he did). Did you laugh a little inside..and mumble "fools"? If a crew member prays before a flight, do you point and snicker? When they hand out Bibles before leaving on a deployment, do you push it aside?
 
Actually I prayed as well. I really never put much thought into my beliefs; I just took every thing on faith. It wasn't until I was surrounded by the extreme who cast science to the side that I started to question why it was I believed what I did. The more I read about Christianity and the other major religions the more it appeared to be a sham. If you read the Bible as a historical document you get a completely different picture than if you think the Creator of the known universe came down and inspired all these men to write it. I'm very sarcastic and come off as arrogant because on this limited platform it gets the message across. I'm really not an a$$ hole in person. I never bring it up in the cockpit unless the other guy does and always try to be respectful.

Don't get offended; if anything you should feel sorry for me. I'm the one that's going to burn for eternity. ;)
 
I didn't say I was respectful on here. Not trying to have it work for me. Trying to introduce a little levity. Never mind, I like being an a$$ better anyway.

Why don't you go murmur to yourself a little while and tell me what insight the big kahuna gives you.
 
Oww. That hurts. So close to home. I may have to go grab a 12 pack and drink myself to sleep tonight. Or maybe I'll just pray about it. Surely if I take up the lord more people will like me.:uzi:
 
shagadelic said:
I'm the one that's going to burn for eternity. ;)
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Would you rather be the person that doesn't believe in God and spends eternity in Hell, or one of the religious and faithful that are proven wrong by having absolutely nothing happen when they die?
 
SIG600 said:
Would you rather be the person that doesn't believe in God and spends eternity in Hell, or one of the religious and faithful that are proven wrong by having absolutely nothing happen when they die?
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Ahhhh, classic Pascal's wager. First of all, believing out of fear that something bad may happen to you after your death is a terrible reason to believe. Second, I would rather try to seek the truth than accepting something as truth first-hand and not having any intellectual curiosity about the workings of the universe. And third, that argument applies to every single other religion with a punishment/reward system as well. I doubt that you lose sleep fearing you may burn in the Islamic hell, or the Jewish hell, or being sent to hell by not dying in battle (Viking belief), etc. etc. It's a terrible argument because the odds are not 50/50 of going to hell or going to heaven (there are many other religions in the world that would increase those odds vastly).
 
As a matter of fact, last night my wife and I were going out to eat. Right before we left I saw the saw the old Pascal's wager post. I told my 15 year old somebody was using that argument. He rolled his eyes. I asked him to handle it while we went to dinner. So my last post was from a teenager. He did pretty good I think. Amazing what free thought will do to the mind.
 

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