P-56 Busted Airspace

[crxpilot]

And the moderator "clr4theapch" strikes again with his liberal censorship agenda. Dont worry buddy, Obama can fight his own battles. :nuts: Enjoy your 2 years left of man love for him.

 

[regionalcap]

From the 'digital terminal procedures' the only FAA published departure procedure for rwy 1 is​

DEPARTURE PROCEDURE: Rwy 1, left turn as soon as
practicable, intercept DCA R-328. Climb to 5000 or as assigned.​

You follow the river on the approach to 19, not the departure. If you are filed IFR the only FAA accepted departure procedure is to tune the DCA VOR and track the 328 radial out. Then stay on that radial until ATC tells you different. Its been that way for many years. And I used to take a J-3 Cub with nothing but a hand held radio to DCA for lunch.

If you visually follow the river out you will make a right turn off the radial at the Roosevelt Bridge that will result in a ground track that points straight at the White House. It is a right turn the controllers don't expect, since it is not a published procedure. Following the river at 500 feet was the VFR procedure years ago when you departed runway 4.

Most of the P-56 violations by air carriers result from automation dependent pilots using standard profile TO procedures. The automation won't respond fast enough and they get a close up view of the Washington monument. The CRJ will do it if you have the radial twisted in and a heading of 300 bugged before you start the TO roll. Then select 'NAV' mode prior to 200 feet. It's a whole lot easier to hand fly it without the FD. .

hmmm....my 10-4 page specifically says to follow the river until 4.0 DME...so I guess it is a published procedure.

 

[glasspilot]

.....deleted. Change of heart.

 

[twott driver]

Zinggg

 

[LearLove]

hmmm....my 10-4 page specifically says to follow the river until 4.0 DME...so I guess it is a published procedure.

then do you have another procedure (10-4B ?) if it is IFR, say 300 and 3/4 mi vis?

 

[LazyLightnin']

then do you have another procedure (10-4B ?) if it is IFR, say 300 and 3/4 mi vis?

Ask tower.

 

[Metro752]

the procedure says follow the river until 4dme to join the 328 out to 10 miles expect vectors

if unable to follow the river join the 328 radial



j.f.c. i cannot believe some of youz

 

[1.3XVso]

Theres this capt in 9e in dtw thats part of the safety dept. He swears he's like god of aviation, mr perfection, know it all busted p56 so i heard.

 

[sunlitpath]

Theres this capt in 9e in dtw thats part of the safety dept. He swears he's like god of aviation, mr perfection, know it all busted p56 so i heard.

Snake bites happen; beware...

 

[1.3XVso]

He's still a jackass......