Once a Air Force Fighter Pilot=Never Cool Again

[T3700]

The military would rather produce a pilot with the ego and B*lls to take an aircraft into downtown Hanoi with a significant chance of not coming back, than one that's fun to fly with on a grueling 4 day trip with a challenging ILS at the end of each leg.

I for one have flown with more egos from Riddle than that boys and girls school in Colorado.

They're all pains in the a**, but I get over it.

 

[ATRCAPT]

The military would rather produce a pilot with the ego and B*lls to take an aircraft into downtown Hanoi with a significant chance of not coming back, than one that's fun to fly with on a grueling 4 day trip with a challenging ILS at the end of each leg.

That was hysterical...oh, wait...you WERE trying to be funny, right?

 

[GogglesPisano]

I don't know what all the fuss is about. About 95% of the captains I fly with at big D are ex-mil and ...

1) They don't advertise it. You have to ask them what they did prior to Delta.

2) I haven't noticed a difference between the services or the aircraft (except the Marines are a bit "out there," the navy guys are the most laid back.)

3) 99% of the captains I've flown with are the highest-caliber, friendliest, most professional group of aviators I've come across yet -- by a mile. I'm on airline #3. There was never any "hazing" like the bull******************** at ACA (a farkin commuter for God's sake.)

 

[BrickTop]

It boggles my mind why people don't' understand basic grammar. The tittle: "Once A Air Force fighter pilot." NO! The difference in "an" vs "a." When the word preceding begins with a vowel use "AN." If it begins with a syllable use "A" with the exception of Y. Just listen to how F&*d up it sounds.

 

[CA1900]

It boggles my mind why people don't' understand basic grammar. The tittle: "Once A Air Force fighter pilot." NO! The difference in "an" vs "a." When the word preceding begins with a vowel, use "AN." If it begins with a syllable, use "A" with the exception of "Y." Just listen to how F&*d up it sounds.

It boggles my mind why people don't understand basic punctuation and spelling. Just look at how f&*d up it looks.

:laugh:

 

[Whine Lover]

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[Fubijaakr]

All you have to do to understand is look at AF vs. Navy manuals.

AF manuals are all about what you can do. Everything else is forbidden.

Navy manuals are what you CAN'T do. Everything else is governed by individual judgment.

Why? The Navy philosophy is based on command at sea, where the Captain is basicly out there making independent decisions. The Air Force derives it philosophy from the Army (WWII Army Air Force) where microcommand and control were paramount.

 

[IBNAV8R]

-1s are written in black and white by engineers and theorists.

NATOPS are written in the blood of other aviators.

 

[Mud Eagle]

http://www.idahostatesman.com/273/story/874410.html?storylink=omni_popular

Is Ablie friends with this guy? Good candidate for Airtran.

Nope, he's a WSO anyway.

 

[Mud Eagle]

All you have to do to understand is look at AF vs. Navy manuals.

AF manuals are all about what you can do. Everything else is forbidden.

Navy manuals are what you CAN'T do. Everything else is governed by individual judgment.

There is one singular place where this argument is true: the Dash 1 flight manual. Other than that, this statement is a nice intra-service rivalry (untrue and incorrect) rumor that keeps getting perpetuated.

This quote, or a variation of it, is in the first chapter of every USAF -1:

The flight manual takes a positive approach and normally states only what you can do. Unusual operations or configurations are prohibited unless specifically covered herein. Clearance from higher headquarters must be obtained before any questionable operation, which is not specifically permitted in this manual, is attempted.

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

It boggles my mind why people don't' understand basic grammar. The tittle: "Once A Air Force fighter pilot." NO! The difference in "an" vs "a." When the word preceding begins with a vowel use "AN." If it begins with a syllable use "A" with the exception of Y. Just listen to how F&*d up it sounds.

You might want to sit the next round out...

 

[Bavarian Chef]

All you have to do to understand is look at AF vs. Navy manuals.

AF manuals are all about what you can do. Everything else is forbidden.

Navy manuals are what you CAN'T do. Everything else is governed by individual judgment.

Why? The Navy philosophy is based on command at sea, where the Captain is basicly out there making independent decisions. The Air Force derives it philosophy from the Army (WWII Army Air Force) where microcommand and control were paramount.

Air Force structure, doctrine and command philosophy is quite logical when you consider the historical context from which it (the AF) derives it's raison d'etre.

It was borne out of the Army, during a period in which great and powerful corporations became transformed by a wartime economy. It teethed for decades on the marrow of nuclear weapons and the lunacy of the Cold War.

The AF is in essence, IBM or GM or Du Pont -- circa 1950.

None of this however, explains why so many cute chicks enlist in the Air Force.

 

[Boxboy]

I like most of the "fighter guys" I've run into. A good majority are thicked skinned from getting their rear ends ripped during debriefs. A good majority of them are good sticks and some are not, as is the case in every community. As for the "Colorado Springs" types, many of my good friends are from the zoo. Yeah, they are a little off but what do you expect when their social skill development ended at the end of high school ;-)
Having been in trainers and heavies all my life, I ran across many "fighter wannabees" who tend to generalize the fighter guys as arrogant jerks. I think this sort of attitude is due to self generated inferiority complex; should have, could have, would have types, if you know what I mean. I did come across a few butt wipes but a good majority of the guys/gals are good $hit, IMO. I fly with many tactical jet/fighter pilots at my airline job and I have never had a bad experience.
Bottom line is this. If one feels comfortable and confident with his/her skills as a pilot, there's nothing to prove. It's those who are lacking that make up for their inabilities with their attitude. My .02.

 

[gutshotdraw]

Most of the ones I know are pretty cool. Now, if I could just get them to stop talking with their hands......

 

[Bavarian Chef]

Most of the ones I know are pretty cool. Now, if I could just get them to stop talking with their hands......

Deaf people drive me nuts too. And mimes.