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Oliver Paul Reason Jr. Drunk & Fired

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Pilot Arrested on AirTran Flight

Pilot Arrested on AirTran Flight

1/13/2005 6:14:16 PM



Police officers boarded an Atlanta-bound AirTran flight in Las Vegas early Thursday morning where they arrested a 38-year-old pilot after a screener smelled alcohol on his breath.

Pilot Oliver Reason Jr., is suspected of having a blood alcohol level above the legal flight limit. He has been charged with the operation of an aircraft while under the influence.

"At no point was the flight under the captain's command," said Tad Hutcheson of AirTran Airways.

The Orlando-based airline subsequently cancelled Flight 1780 destined from McCarran International to Hartsfield-Jackson and removed all of the 60 passengers from the plane. Other flight accommodations were made.

The ordeal started just after midnight when a Transportation Security Administration screener reported smelling alcohol when the pilot passed by. Police were then notified and went to the gate, only to find out Reason had already boarded the plane. He was arrested in the cockpit.

AirTran officials said Reason was a member for the Federal Flight Deck Officer Program, run by the TSA, which allowed him to carry a weapon.

A spokesperson for the Orlando-based airline said the airline immediately contacted the Federal Aviation Administration about the incident. The FAA has made a medical certification suspension and started an emergency review.
 
Yikes, possible drinking AND potentially carrying a weapon. I guess during his 'quick and dirty' hand gun training he missed the part about not being allowed into bars.

I'm curious, are the TSA pukes batting a thousand on blowing in the drunks, or have they struck out at all?
 
STUPID STUPID STUPID Freakin bone head. There is always one in the bunch who can't pull their head out of their arse. His career is history, he deservers it, but now the rest of us will pay the consequences. Guys like that just piss me off.
 
Treatment my a$$. Just because the guy showed up with alcohol on his breath doesn't mean he's an alcoholic, or crazy, or reckless. It means he's a dumba$$.
 
ultrarunner said:
I'm curious, are the TSA pukes batting a thousand on blowing in the drunks, or have they struck out at all?

I don't know about their average, but with Spirit, they've struck out. They pulled a Captain off sometime in the recent past. They even convinced the Sheriffs Deputy that they were correct. The Captain was hauled off to a facility, where he blew a Zero and blood tested a Zero. I don't know, but I hope he sues the cr@p out of everybody involved.
I hope that this AirTran pilot has a similar story to tell in the near future

I think that I'll start buying a piece of Sbarros heavy on the garlic, veggy pizza before going through security. That ought to give em something to sniff. Ha.

8N
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Airtran you guys rock !
You hired that guy but kicked a buddy of mine, a 3 year crj Capt. for Air Whizz out of class for a careless and reckless driving ticket back when he was in college.

Honkies, Puh--Leeeeezzzz !!!
 
TIGV said:
Airtran you guys rock !
You hired that guy but kicked a buddy of mine, a 3 year crj Capt. for Air Whizz out of class for a careless and reckless driving ticket back when he was in college.

Well if your buddy convienently left that off his application, in which case he would have been lying, they had every right. Sorry but the incident today doesn't excuse your buddy's misstep. They both justify being fired.
 
I'll PM you his number if you like, tell him that.

Airtran just cost him a 60k+ a year job, they should not have hired him prior to the completion of his backround investigation, that being the case.

Can you say Lawyer ?
 
(1) A few of the TSA and other varieties of security guards have a real problem with the FFDO program. I have heard several first hand accounts of harassment, up to and including the "drunk pilot" allegation. So far, I think the TSA's record is very poor when it comes to judging the aeromedical fitness of crewmembers.

(2) ALPA reccommends that if a "drunk pilot" allegation is made that the pilot immediately remove himself from the flight, call ALPA and get tested. Any allegation, even if untrue, must be dealt with seriously.

(3) The America West pilots in Florida defended their operation of an aircraft ( while intoxicated ) by correctly arguing that the Federal Government has established field preemption over the operation of aircaft.

As far as making fun of the guy's picture - I bet he had one rough day by the time that photo was taken. I'm curious, does Airtran have a trip that duties in at LAS around midnight? Seems like a strange trip and if the pilot had figured on the 8 hour rule, then it was a strange time of day to tie one on. Any Airtran guys got any insights?
 
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As I said in the other post. Quit throwing your fellow pilot under the bus. Wait for the facts, as you'd want your fellow pilots to do the same....

It's takes a he1l of alot more to be compassionate........

It's Lord Of the Flies baby!!!!
 
TIGV said:
I'll PM you his number if you like, tell him that.

Airtran just cost him a 60k+ a year job, they should not have hired him prior to the completion of his backround investigation, that being the case.

Can you say Lawyer ?

Actually the four airlines I have worked for over the past ten years didn't complete my background checks until I had started groundschool. That includes two regionals, a LCC, and a Major. I remember the lady at the Major I worked for said one of the reasons they wait (at least for the past employer notification) is they don't like to alert current employers their employee is "shopping around" for another job as this can cause problems if they decide to not take the job or it doesn't work out for some reason. I also remember her saying they weren't required to finish the background checks until the employee starts flight training or IOE can't remember which one. Either way it sucks for your friend hope it works out for him in the end.
 
TIGV said:
Can you say Lawyer ?

Can you say TOUGH SH!T? SOB lies on his app and then thinks getting a lawyer because he was "hired" before they completed the background check is going to make a rat's a$$. THEY cost him a 60k a year job??? His careless and reckless diving that he tried to hide had nothing to do with it, I suppose? That's the problem with most people. Always pointing the finger and blaming others for their own fark ups. Typical. What a putz.

You too, GV for making an issue out of a cut and dried case.:rolleyes:
 
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You know, after reading this I realized that when I'm going through the checkpoint in uniform, more often than not the TSAgents often try to engage me in mindless banter about one thing or another. I wonder if they've been given a directive to pay extra attention to flight crews in regards to alcohol, or if this is just an individual's zealousness.

I'd make a few FFDO comments, but I think it would be inappropriate on an open forum.
 
Hovernut said:
You know, after reading this I realized that when I'm going through the checkpoint in uniform, more often than not the TSAgents often try to engage me in mindless banter about one thing or another. I wonder if they've been given a directive to pay extra attention to flight crews in regards to alcohol, or if this is just an individual's zealousness.


You are correct they are indeed trained to do this for that very reason. I don't talk to them.
 
TIGV said:
Airtran just cost him a 60k+ a year job, they should not have hired him prior to the completion of his backround investigation, that being the case.

Can you say Lawyer ?

Sounds to me more like he wasted Airtran's time and a class slot that could have went to someone else who didn't lie on their application.

If he was hired and subsequently fired for that, it sure sounds like he didn't disclose it and they found it, which is grounds for firing at any carrier.

I am also a little concerned about your ideas about right and wrong. Do you really think that he is somehow entitled to damages? Sounds to me like you need to put down the remote control and step away from the Springer show and learn a little bit about the meaning of "right" and "wrong".
 
Have a little fun on the next trip you don't want to fly. Swagger and stagger your way thru the TSA's crack team of "profilers", enroute to the gate. I know, I know...... who could possibly deceive this fortress of security masterminds ???
 
Hovernut said:
You know, after reading this I realized that when I'm going through the checkpoint in uniform, more often than not the TSAgents often try to engage me in mindless banter about one thing or another. I wonder if they've been given a directive to pay extra attention to flight crews in regards to alcohol, or if this is just an individual's zealousness.

I'd make a few FFDO comments, but I think it would be inappropriate on an open forum.
100% agreement!
 
TIGV said:
Airtran just cost him a 60k+ a year job, they should not have hired him prior to the completion of his backround investigation, that being the case.

Can you say Lawyer ?
Holy crap, are you serious?
 
Dooshbahg You Rock !

FarginDooshbahg said:
Can you say TOUGH SH!T? SOB lies on his app and then thinks getting a lawyer because he was "hired" before they completed the background check is going to make a rat's a$$. THEY cost him a 60k a year job??? His careless and reckless diving that he tried to hide had nothing to do with it, I suppose? That's the problem with most people. Always pointing the finger and blaming others for their own fark ups. Typical. What a putz.

You too, GV for making an issue out of a cut and dried case.:rolleyes:

Nice ! I also like your handle, somewhat carmic even....

I don't like to respond to this sort of fishing but....

Nope he didn't lie on his app and nope he didn't have any trouble at the 3 regionals he has flown for.

I was pointing out that his dismissal seemed somewhat harsher in light of the fact that one can apparently command an Airliner while armed and under the influence. Might be this chap you should direct your angst against Dooshbahg, if the charge holds, there'll be an open spot over at Airtran for ya, well..... depending on the nature of any traffic infractions you might have had in college, best call a lawyer now eh ?
 
Oh, incidentally, for the rest of you folks, according to Dooshbahg we must all exercise extreme caution while DIVING, apparently he feels this is a most hazardous enterprise, frowned upon by the Airlines.
 
TIGV said:
I was pointing out that his dismissal seemed somewhat harsher in light of the fact that one can apparently command an Airliner while armed and under the influence.

The case involving your "friend" has absolutely NOTHING to do with the case of an AirTran Pilot allegedly reporting to work intoxicated. Even if you choose to make that biased leap to compare the two, then I offer this: The arrested AirTran Pilot in question had been with AirTran for 10 years and had no prior alcohol incidents (in or out of work). Your friend could not and cannot make that dubious distinction or claim.

As far as you incredibly ignorant comment which I have quoted and underlined above, lets state the facts. The first fact is that one CAN command an aircraft while "armed". Its called the FFDO Program.

The second fact is one CANNOT command an aircraft while intoxicated (whether armed or not has absolutely NO relevance). This AirTran Pilot was arrested, and if proven guilty will be fired..... (just like your friend....... since you seem so intent to compare the two).

BTW - How about letting your "friend" tell the REAL story rather than YOU telling us all what happened to him. Two questions: Were you there personally, and do you REALLY have the correct facts. The answer is NO to both of those questions.
 
FL717 said:
The case involving your "friend" has absolutely NOTHING to do with the case of an AirTran Pilot allegedly reporting to work intoxicated.
I don't see the correlation either.

FL717 said:
BTW - How about letting your "friend" tell the REAL story rather than YOU telling us all what happened to him. Two questions: Were you there personally, and do you REALLY have the correct facts. The answer is NO to both of those questions.
He does seem to have the inside scoop on this matter. Maybe he is his friend and his friend is he...he is the walrus...he is the eggman. Coo Coo Ka-joo!
 
TIGV said:
Nope he didn't lie on his app and nope he didn't have any trouble at the 3 regionals he has flown for.

Have you seen his app? Neither have I.

I was pointing out that his dismissal seemed somewhat harsher in light of the fact that one can apparently command an Airliner while armed and under the influence.

You have got to be kidding me. Have you ever heard of a concept called "logic"? Apparently not.
 

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