Ok, take this for what it's worth

[FlyingFarmer]

Here we go again.....

Well, well, well, the fructo-blue aid drinker new hires are out in force. Calm down gang, Jetblue has it's share of over the top FA's just like any other. The PC thought control comment is dead on. The gay FA's and pilots, of which there are more and more in our ranks these days, don't want TOLERANCE. What they want is special treatment and wholesale approval, along with affirmation by ALL people that their lifestyle is accepted by the breeder society. I've ridden in the back in stealth mode and I'm sometimes amazed by what I see. Airlines don't just fly trash around these days, we hire it quite regularly. JB new-bees, how many times have you ridden in back out of uniform? Esprit de corp is one thing but not being able to call a spade a spade is horse of another mixed metaphor. But don't worry guys, JB is a friendly company where all opinions are valued. Let's perform an experiment. If you observe for example any M/F ramper/pilot/FA/Mech/ticket A. whatever, engage in any non-prof behaviour don't just turn them in, take them aside and talk calmly to them about why they shouldn't make kissy face in public, and then do the same thing to an alternative lifestyler couple.

See what happens.....

 

[Uppercrust]

Homophobia? That's a nice convenient Hollywood PC word coined by activist homosexuals and their PC supporters to attempt force thought control on normal people. Well, I'm not buying.

Uncomfortable seeing flight attendants prancing around on an flight blowing kisses to each other . . . your "homophobic." Uncomfortable seeing a guy and a gal flight attendant showing public displays of affection . . . well that's different . . . that's unprofessional.

Uncomfortable (actually almost jumping out of a moving cab) sharing a cab ride with a couple of homosexual flight attendants and listening to them talk about packing peanut butter?. . .well, you're homophobic again.

Uncomfortable walking into a public restroom in Concourse C at Atlanta and seeing Ty Webb and -9Capt come out of the stall together....well, you're normal!:laugh:

 

[737 Pylt]

Uncomfortable walking into a public restroom in Concourse C at Atlanta and seeing Ty Webb and -9Capt come out of the stall together....well, you're normal!:laugh:

This coming from a "guy" who had "brokeback mountain," then a bunch of men in towels, and now a young boy as his avatar....
737

 

[rayford steele]

Well, well, well, the fructo-blue aid drinker new hires are out in force. Calm down gang, Jetblue has it's share of over the top FA's just like any other. The PC thought control comment is dead on. The gay FA's and pilots, of which there are more and more in our ranks these days, don't want TOLERANCE. What they want is special treatment and wholesale approval, along with affirmation by ALL people that their lifestyle is accepted by the breeder society. I've ridden in the back in stealth mode and I'm sometimes amazed by what I see. Airlines don't just fly trash around these days, we hire it quite regularly. JB new-bees, how many times have you ridden in back out of uniform? Esprit de corp is one thing but not being able to call a spade a spade is horse of another mixed metaphor. But don't worry guys, JB is a friendly company where all opinions are valued. Let's perform an experiment. If you observe for example any M/F ramper/pilot/FA/Mech/ticket A. whatever, engage in any non-prof behaviour don't just turn them in, take them aside and talk calmly to them about why they shouldn't make kissy face in public, and then do the same thing to an alternative lifestyler couple.

See what happens.....

This isn't unique to JetBlue. This is what America has become. Time to go put on my striaght pride t-shirt.

 

[Longhorn]

Well, well, well, the fructo-blue aid drinker new hires are out in force.

I am hardly a new hire. I was simply commenting on his post and our service. His experience is NOT common and does not happen that often. It’s good to see that he wrote in on it and hopefully it will be addressed.

 

[Uppercrust]

This coming from a "guy" who had "brokeback mountain," then a bunch of men in towels, and now a young boy as his avatar....
737

I never even thought of it like that. The avatar is suppose to be a nerd. But, look where your mind is at.

Talk about avatars, take a look at yours. It is definitely worth a laugh.:laugh:

 

[ExpWayVis31]

I have flown B6 but once, here were my complaints from my all nighter a few weeks ago.

1. I sat in row 25, 1 row from the aft galley, the 4 flight attendants sat back there and gabbed the whole way which made it hard to sleep.

2. I dimmed my TV but others were left on full bright...also made it hard to sleep.

3. They call them pillows and blankets but in reality they are very small.

4. They boarded some pax via aft stairs...some pax had a hard time carrying there bags up the stairs.

Other than that it was a decent flight but definitely no better than any flight that I have had on other airlines...I agree it's the TV period.

 

[FlyingFarmer]

Hey Rayford!

Didn't you use to date that good looking FA, what was her name.......Honey, Hottie, no! Hattie, right?

:laugh:

-FF

 

[FlyingFarmer]

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Sorry, I don't know why it posted twice.

 

[Lake Alice]

I know this is gong to incite riots among the faithful, but I need to let it out.

I just rode JetBlue down from BOS to FLL tonight, paid regular fare, no free ride. Have flown them many times in the past, and am a regular on Delta, Southwest etc. because we tend to park the plane for a week or so and ride home.
Look, I know service is really hurting these days, but, JetBlue always talks about he "JetBlue" experience. But,, sorry guys, you are going to go the way of the others. Here is why.
We boarded late, ok, it happens. The plane was late getting in, but everybody understands. The flight crew was the first to offer apologies, and it was nice. But, right from the begining it was,,, well,,, awkward.
The cabin crew was 3 guys and one gal. And, these guys were over the top flamers. During the passenger brief, the guys were giggling and glancing, and really, prancing around. If the lead guy slipped on a word, the others would turn around and giggle, blow kisses and such. The people in the row ahead of me, and the people in my row, were squirming, and we all chatted among ourselves. I didn't know my seatmates, and they did not know the people around them. This is your customer!!! The cabin service was sodas and peanuts. No different than any other. And worse,,, the darn TV's were on the fritz. So what I am meaning to say is,,, without the TV's,, JB is no better than any other low cost carrier, and maybe a bit worse. At least on S/W I know the deal getting on. So, the JB experiance is all in the TV, I guess. You best keep them running. Heck, I am no major homophobe, just a regular person dealing in a regular world.
Sorry, JB folks, but that is the way I feel.

Hung

For what its worth?

If you dont like our F/A's or our tv's or anything else we have to offer then don't fly on us. Plain and simple.

 

[GuppyWN]

Hung, I guess I'm the only guy that sees it your way. The flamers are embarassing. Plain and simple. I think it's a negative experience for the customers. If you want to be gay and over the top that's your deal. Just please don't do it in front of the customers.

Fire away,
Gup

 

[Bavarian Chef]

I think that experiences like this are immensely embarrassing for my company and need to be addressed.

BOS to FLL has more than just cashews and soda though. We do "reduced service" on short legs, for example bos-iad. That consists of soda or water and a choice of some type of chips or a cookie. Smart business. I used to jump on UA from iad to bos or lga, no service most of the time. Once a fa asked me in front of the other pax if she should do a service because the flight was so short. I, in a jb uniform, with all the pax staring at me oddly, said ... "uhh, do whatever your airline wants you to do?"

 

[Lake Alice]

This guys works for some shaddy corporate outfit in Ft. Lauderdale. He interviewed and was turned down. Now he is lashing out.

 

[J32driver]

Actually, I only wish this were flame bait. Fact of the matter.... whether its flame bait or not, he's right.

I did a trip a bit ago that had 4 male FA's. All "batted for the other team". 3 of the 4 were pleasurable people to work with. 1 of them was an absolute embarrasment. It was like he was TRYING to be over the top. What are you going to do though.... can't kick him off the trip for being a fruitloop. JetBlue hired him, now they have to deal with the image he presents to the public.

The sad fact is, alot of FA's have no concept of what professional service is. Thats not just JetBlue. Its anyone that has a staff of FA's. I've been riding in the back of planes on a weekly basis for almost 10 years now. No company is immune from a bad FA every now and then.

 

[Mamma]

Lake Alice,
Get off the thread. You are embarrassing yourself and your company. This was a good thread that actually provided some intelligent discussion for once. I think Hung posted a legitimate issue.

 

[IAHERJ]

J32 is correct. I saw it a little at my last airline. It was the fault of the inflight training department and the inflight supervisors. They create the culture of the FA's and it was out of control. I don't see much of this at my current airline. I attribute the good behavior of our FA's to the inflight supervisors as well as some of the "old hags". They don't put up with the above mentioned behavior either by the guys or trashy girls. These old FA's were here when sexual harassment was the norm and the long range aircraft all had 4 engines. They may not look good but they keep the newbies in line. We have around 80 newbies comming online each month and most are attractive. I like knowing that these older, senior FA's are showing them how to serve customers and treat the pilots etc. When you have an all young, new workforce, you have instances like the JetBlue description. I've seen it at AirTran and at COEX, and yes even at CAL. Sometimes a little policing among the troops, by the troops is all that is needed. Tell the FA, or pilot that what they are doing is embarassing to you as an employee and why. If you can do this without offending the person than you just did your airline a big favor.

IAHERJ

 

[Hung Start]

Ok, Alice:

I said my piece, and if you bothered to read, I told you that:
a) I was tired and probably a bit cranky.
b) I was just voicing my opinion
c) As I said to Longhorn, I assumed it was a bad day all around, and I would be back.

So,, to answer you, I never interviewed for any major, or for that matter any smaller carrier. Never had to.
I started a FBO that turned into a pretty good sized charter company that grew bigger than I would ever have imagined. Through my hard work AND the hard work of a bunch of great employees.
Time came, an offer was made and I sold it. And, at the age of 50 I was retired. Moved to south Florida from the cold Northeast to be closer to my daughter. And got a call to fly a Citation as a contract pilot. Paid very well, fly a couple of days a week,,,, tops. Could care less of trying to be a "real" pilot, other than some of the kids I taught to fly, or flew for me in 135 ops are now in the majors. I'm proud of them, and hope they never get your attitude.
If you really cared for your airline, you would want to make sure ALL your customers enjoy the ride. Don't whine if somebody mentions what is perceived to be a flaw,,, work to fix it!!
Or then, people will vote with their wallets, and truly not come back.

So know you know me, try not to be too jealous. I fly for the love of it,, my retirement is secure.

Hung

 

[IB6 UB9]

Hung Start,

I think my airline owes you an apology for the service you had the other day. I had a two male FA's (gay) fighting yesterday in the aisle on a 4 hour flight and had to separate them, similar to separating my 5 and 6 yr old. A disgrace.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

Hung Start,

I think my airline owes you an apology for the service you had the other day. I had a two male FA's (gay) fighting yesterday in the aisle on a 4 hour flight and had to separate them, similar to separating my 5 and 6 yr old. A disgrace.

And this is how you make a return customer out of a person who had a bad experience on your airline. There is nothing wrong in admitting that your airline may have been in the wrong with a customer service issue.

No need in shooting the messenger.

 

[32LT10]

This guys works for some shaddy corporate outfit in Ft. Lauderdale. He interviewed and was turned down. Now he is lashing out.

No he is just waiting and waiting on his class date...... Perhaps if he was younger and went to FSI you would have hired him.