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[bluebound]

The OWS movement is a way to mainstream socialism and communism. If you can't see that, then you are destined to it. Let's look at the income disparity in the communist and socialist contries and see how thats working out. China and Venezuela have some of the worst income disparities in the world and some of the worst suffering the world has to offer (other than a Sheria). In this country "deserve" has nothing to do with it, you get what you work for or you starve. I am happy to help those who are willing to help themselves, but I'll be damned if I'll give a penny to those who think they can help themselves to my stuff. This country is about providence, self-reliance, and grace. If you don't agree, there are plenty of other countries you can occupy that agree with you. Sad to see people like Ty are going to occupy my company.

 

[dueguard1]

....the saddest of all SLAVES is the one who does not know they ARE one indeed

- Gandhi

 

[HalinTexas]

....the saddest of all SLAVES is the one who does not know they ARE one indeed

- Gandhi

Hmm. Maybe if he doesn't know he's a slave, he doesn't know how miserable he is. Therefore, he's in a state of bliss. Ignorant slave might be a happy person. Very transcendental, thank you.


Question: Is a slave to government more or less "sad" than a slave to man? Same for business, politics, philosophy and religion.

 

[Amish RakeFight]

OWS is VERY left leaning.

My dumb-@ss step-son, 23, barely got out of high school. He was diagnosed with a learning disability and milked it for all its worth. He got through because he didn't cause trouble. He's had more jobs than I've had my entire life! He's NEVER worked for minimum wage. His fiance' (don't get me started) just moved in with us until she goes to Navy BT in Feb. Her first day of job hunting found 3 jobs. They will take her full or part time. She's probably going to take two of them as part time. Dumb@ss is in truck-driving school. Don't know if he'll pass, but if he does he'll be making $800/wk driving a truck.

I'm 46, unemployed for the 4th time since 04/03/2008, with a college degree (math/science, Liberal Arts) that's useless, have started two businesses with my wife (also unemployed the same date in '08), and we're in debt up to our ears. I can't even get an interview with anyone by a regional. I may be driving a truck, too. Right now, I'm making $8.50 an hour as a UPS Driver Helper for the holidays. My wife (51, ex FA) hopes to start at Home Depot, soon. Her business is off because it's winter, mine is just very, very slow. I've liquidated $40K of my IRA over the last 2 years to help start a business and pay my bills. We're working! BTW, I took UE for 9 months, my wife 6. It paid more than what Compass and Pinnacle were going to pay me to work there. What do you think my incentive was to work for that?

I don't begrudge the Upper Class. I was one of them once. I've generally found that the middle class is over-rated. Those that whine about the "losing" middle class have made bad or unlucky choices, given up and/or are not willing to work very hard. I know I've made some bad choices, and I've been busting my @ss at whatever I can find. I've left the country 3 times for flying work, and am willing to leave again!

I've been an ALPA member since 1994. So far, they've just taken 2% of my wages. Can't see the benefit of being a member of this "class protector." They've done nothing to help me find work. My friends at ATA have done much more to help than just about anything else. My local friends I've made in the last 3 years have done more. I'm blessed.

As evident in Black Friday, Small Biz Saturday, and Cyber Monday, the middle class isn't hurting all that bad. All those goods made by the ever growing Chinese middle class, made some Chinese upper class, also growing, a lot of money. I type on a MacBook, awaiting a call on my iPhone (3g), all made in China, from my UPS contact ready to work.

Use your brains, think critically, don't shy away from hard work and quit whining. No one said life would be easy. Get to work! Network. Don't worry, too much, whether the job beneath you. You'd be surprised how many are doing the same thing!

Almost ready for that truck-driving school.

You're brian-washed, dude. Same for Flyin. I also dont think you know what "upper class" (as you refer your self) remotely means.

You're a true pawn of the system and seem to be more than happy to accept your beatings as necessary and natural. Both of you live deep within a "false consciousness."

Corporations and banks have ruined this country.

 

[Amish RakeFight]

Its good though, that you feel you were once part of the upper class. Thats what they would like you to think. That youre reaping and enjoying the same benefits as them. That the system "works" for you. They've got you deluded.

 

[Ty Webb]

The OWS movement is a way to mainstream socialism and communism. If you can't see that, then you are destined to it. Let's look at the income disparity in the communist and socialist contries and see how thats working out. China and Venezuela have some of the worst income disparities in the world and some of the worst suffering the world has to offer (other than a Sheria). In this country "deserve" has nothing to do with it, you get what you work for or you starve. I am happy to help those who are willing to help themselves, but I'll be damned if I'll give a penny to those who think they can help themselves to my stuff. This country is about providence, self-reliance, and grace. If you don't agree, there are plenty of other countries you can occupy that agree with you. Sad to see people like Ty are going to occupy my company.

Sorry, but you've been handed the wrong set of "talking points". :laugh:

The current situation is a result of NAFTA and other failed policies crafted by a class of professional Legislators and Lobbyists, on behalf of corporations, and at the expense of hard-working Americans.

Hal, your situation is a prime example of what I am talking about. It's not that you don't want to work, or are lazy, or aren't trying . . . . it's that the jobs are no longer here, but the dividends and bonuses are.

Seems to me, the Tea Party and the Occupy groups are both saying the same thing . . . . they're mad that our political system is broken, our politicians are bought and paid for, and they're fed up.

The press demonized the Tea Party as racists, and the Occupiers as Communists and Anarchists, while the majority are neither.

 

[Ty Webb]

Its good though, that you feel you were once part of the upper class. Thats what they would like you to think. That youre reaping and enjoying the same benefits as them. That the system "works" for you. They've got you deluded.

Yup. Anyone who has seen how the true upper-class live would snort with laughter at the thought of a guy making $250-$300K as "upper class". That wouldn't even pay the fuel bill for a few months.

 

[bluebound]

Ty,
You won't see me on Maury, Facebook, or Twitter complaning about my problems. You'll see me helping my family, my church, and my community. But if someone tries to take something from me, I will cut your hand off, because I earned everything I have.
This is about Socialism and Communism versus freedom. That's what it always been about, century after century. This is the same old battle repeating itself, none of these arguments are original. The only thing you can do is educate yourself, prepare yourself, and pray. In the end the truth will stand.

 

[Ty Webb]

Ty,
You won't see me on Maury, Facebook, or Twitter complaning about my problems. You'll see me helping my family, my church, and my community. But if someone tries to take something from me, I will cut your hand off, because I earned everything I have.
This is about Socialism and Communism versus freedom. That's what it always been about, century after century. This is the same old battle repeating itself, none of these arguments are original. The only thing you can do is educate yourself, prepare yourself, and pray. In the end the truth will stand.

Hmmm . . . We must have went to different schools, because from what I remember, Socialism has only been around since the mid Nineteenth century, and Communism since the Twentieth (ever hear of Marx, Engels, or Lenin?).

For most of written history, men have worked the land for the nobility (serfdom) or been forced into the king's army to battle another king for more wealth . . . not battling against the Socialists or Communists.

No one is trying to take anything from you, Chief. I pay way more than my fair share in taxes, and I'm not happy about it, either, but I put the blame where it belongs . . . . and it isn't on our fellow citizens.

 

[landlover]

I don't begrudge the Upper Class. I was one of them once.

you made over 500k a year as a pilot? or were you in a different field?