Obama secretly ends program that let pilots carry guns

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So I guess ANY otherwise authorized weapon carrying officer will also no longer be allowed to carry on an airplane. And for that matter airport police will go back to the days of a billy club inside the secured area...... RIGHT....
 

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Read the article closer your title is wrong! Funds are being re-allocated but the program is not ending!!!!
 

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Read the article closer your title is wrong! Funds are being re-allocated but the program is not ending!!!!
Have you ever heard of an "administrative end-run?" This is a textbook example. Ending the program would be politically unpopular. By 're-allocating' the funds that support the FFDO program he is putting a de facto end to the program without political consequences. This is Politics 101.

Wake up and smell the coffee.
 

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And it's an editorial. Not a news article per se.
 

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The FFDO website has nothing up on this. I'll wait for their offical response before I start belly aching over a WT three paragraph report that has more holes in it than my underwear.
 

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ALPA Says It's Not So...

Newsflash from ALPA International

TSA Reconfirms Commitment to FFDO Program
March 17, 2009


In stark contrast to an op-ed article in today’s edition (March 17, 2009) of the Washington Times, that claims “…President Obama is quietly ending the federal firearms program, risking public safety on airlines in the name of an anti-gun ideology,” TSA officials reassured ALPA they are committed to the FFDO program and have plans for its expansion.
TSA’s leadership immediately contacted ALPA and requested a meeting to discuss this news report. ALPA representatives met with TSA executives this afternoon and were told that TSA embraces the FFDO program, that there are no plans to reduce or restrict its growth, and that the agency fully intends to grow and expand the program.

Government representatives acknowledged that the program needs additional funding to achieve these goals, and that they are actively pursuing sources of additional funding. These funds will be used to enhance the program’s management structure and oversight, which if implemented, will address an ALPA Board of Directors security priority.

TSA is currently training hundreds of pilots each year and plans to continue to train at least that number or more into the future. The size of the FFDO cadre has grown so large that additional resources are needed to provide greater structure and oversight to this important program, which TSA referred to today as “an important layer of defense.”

“ALPA is very pleased that the TSA was so proactive in communicating its concerns to the Association and we are likewise pleased that we are able to report this good news to the membership,” said ALPA President, Capt. John Prater. “ALPA values its relationship with the TSA, and it is obvious from the way the agency handled this event that the feeling is mutual.”
 

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Its not his title. Its the Washington Times title.
The Washington Times (this is not the Washington Post) is nothing more than a political tabloid. They have a very loose editorial policy where they will publish just about anything if it suites their political agenda. Likewise, they will not publish the editorial authors names.

I also find it ironic that the gun loving, Obama hating right wingers now point the finger at Obama for a lack of support in this program when Bush tried like he** to keep it from ever becoming a reality in the first place.
 

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The Washington Times (this is not the Washington Post) is nothing more than a political tabloid. They have a very loose editorial policy where they will publish just about anything if it suites their political agenda. Likewise, they will not publish the editorial authors names.
The same could be said about any number of establishment papers. The New York Times comes to mind.
 

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I also find it ironic that the gun loving, Obama hating right wingers now point the finger at Obama for a lack of support in this program when Bush tried like he** to keep it from ever becoming a reality in the first place.
call it ironic all you want...we were bitchin and yelling then, and we are bitching and yelling now :D
 

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Once Osama and has liberal lapdog eric holder are done trampling our second amendment rights, through the back door of course, by placing astronomical taxes ammunition and firearms, the FFDO program will be next. I'm sure it will be MUCH more diffcult to become an FFDO in the future. I would be suprised to see the most anti-gun/self defense administration in the history of the US expand on any program in which the government issues weapons.
 

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Once Osama and has liberal lapdog eric holder are done trampling our second amendment rights, through the back door of course, by placing astronomical taxes ammunition and firearms, the FFDO program will be next. I'm sure it will be MUCH more diffcult to become an FFDO in the future. I would be suprised to see the most anti-gun/self defense administration in the history of the US expand on any program in which the government issues weapons.

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Guess the only good news about obama and his policys is that he is spending his political capital faster than our tax dollars... At this rate, the republicans will take back congress in the mid terms, and obama is going to have a hard time getting re-elected.... Thank God.... Oh!.. Can i still say that, or has he gone after freedom of speech as well!

Since obama and his little possy seem to hate guns so much... he should have his secret service detail disarm....
 

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Guess the only good news about obama and his policys is that he is spending his political capital faster than our tax dollars... At this rate, the republicans will take back congress in the mid terms, and obama is going to have a hard time getting re-elected.... Thank God.... Oh!.. Can i still say that, or has he gone after freedom of speech as well!

Since obama and his little possy seem to hate guns so much... he should have his secret service detail disarm....
No you cant say that. You are not allowed to have an "Anti Liberal" opinion anymore. Obama not be reelected? Blasphemy!!
 

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Guess the only good news about obama and his policys is that he is spending his political capital faster than our tax dollars... At this rate, the republicans will take back congress in the mid terms, and obama is going to have a hard time getting re-elected.... Thank God.... Oh!.. Can i still say that, or has he gone after freedom of speech as well!

Since obama and his little possy seem to hate guns so much... he should have his secret service detail disarm....
So after 2 months of Obama, you're ready to write him off, but I guess the last 8 years were just peachy!?! Yeah, can't wait to go back.
(and for the record I did vote for W in 2000, but you can't fool me twice).
And as far as freedom of speech, how short is your memory again? We lost it after 9/11, nobody was allowed to say anything critical about the admn or the war.

You need to drop the ideology and make your decision on facts.
There's a simple rule: If someone has his mind made up before anything happens or has always voted for the same party, he's not a free man. He might think he's free, but he's controlled by a party machine.
 
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So after 2 months of Obama, you're ready to write him off, but I guess the last 8 years were just peachy!?! Yeah, can't wait to go back.
(and for the record I did vote for W in 2000, but you can't fool me twice).
And as far as freedom of speech, how short is your memory again? We lost it after 9/11, nobody was allowed to say anything critical about the admn or the war.

You need to drop the ideology and make your decision on facts.
There's a simple rule: If someone has his mind made up before anything happens or has always voted for the same party, he's not a free man. He might think he's free, but he's controlled by a party machine.
I have to tell you, I voted for BO and am very much beginning to question my vote. I've always voted independent and consider my views a mixture of both parties' boilerplates. I have been displeased, disillusioned and downright disgusted (how's that for alliteration?!) with the bailout proceedings. The AIG thing is only a very small part of what has been the biggest reaming of the American public in history. I had hoped this administration was on a path to changing from a contribution/lobby controlled agenda. They are not, and while the views are different in nature, I expect absolutely the same government from the dems as we had the past eight years-just different issues but all based upon who has the cash, power and the best group on K street.

I will say this, had McCain come out and stated he was solidly opposed to the bailout in any form he would have had my vote in a heartbeat, but he didn't, and I was left with my third favorite dem to vote for. What a sh!t election.
 

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The FFDO website has nothing up on this. I'll wait for their offical response before I start belly aching over a WT three paragraph report that has more holes in it than my underwear.
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