Occam's Razor
Risible...ALWAYS risible
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I'm voting yes. No question. It is my company, and I think we need to keep our powder dry.
Some points:
135Driver wrote: "And, if I'm not mistaken, the contribution doesn't start until AFTER they come out of bankruptcy. UAL was there four 4 years!"
He is incorrect. My paystub reflects a 5% contribution into my DC plan on the March 13th paycheck. It has started.
Duration: We've never had a contract last for it's duration that wasn't modified signifcantly mid-term. We got some of our greatest enhancements mid-term (10% pay increase in 2003 while others were moving the other way, and time-and-a-half pay in 1996), and our biggest improvements to Scope. The landscape changes constantly, and this TA gives us a chance to use future changes as leverage. We've done it in past, and it's a bit silly to think we won't be able to do it in the future.
SJet: Will not cause furloughs. It will slow expansion of the 100-seat fleet in the future according to some, but the same logic suggests the 100-seat fleet slows growth of the 125-150 seat fleet. That hasn't been the case in the past, but suddenly is fait accompli in the future? I don't buy it. In any case, that battle was lost when all of our peers swallowed the 70-seaters.
Work rules: The work rules were adjusted in our favor (trip rigs, avg day, DH credit) to reduce/eliminate furloughs. It was done by keeping the pay cut at 23.9%. Smart move. Taking care of the junior pilots should be "job one". The senior pukes (like me, a top-half captain) will be ok.
PERP: (Early Retirement Program) Good! If the pension legislation passes, I think it will be popular with the over-55 group. (Probably more popular than my plan to force all of them, at gunpoint, to clean their raingutters on a rickety step-ladder!)
The "no" voters are always the most vocal. That's normal. Very few pilots raise their voice to shout "Yes!". Keep in mind that 13% of NWA pilots voted "No" to the largest pay increase in the last 30-years...at a time when the other airlines were taking hits. The bottom 10% of the list has a different perspective, and I appreciate it. Those with high-earning spouses have a different perspective too.
< 50, Blue Book
Some points:
135Driver wrote: "And, if I'm not mistaken, the contribution doesn't start until AFTER they come out of bankruptcy. UAL was there four 4 years!"
He is incorrect. My paystub reflects a 5% contribution into my DC plan on the March 13th paycheck. It has started.
Duration: We've never had a contract last for it's duration that wasn't modified signifcantly mid-term. We got some of our greatest enhancements mid-term (10% pay increase in 2003 while others were moving the other way, and time-and-a-half pay in 1996), and our biggest improvements to Scope. The landscape changes constantly, and this TA gives us a chance to use future changes as leverage. We've done it in past, and it's a bit silly to think we won't be able to do it in the future.
SJet: Will not cause furloughs. It will slow expansion of the 100-seat fleet in the future according to some, but the same logic suggests the 100-seat fleet slows growth of the 125-150 seat fleet. That hasn't been the case in the past, but suddenly is fait accompli in the future? I don't buy it. In any case, that battle was lost when all of our peers swallowed the 70-seaters.
Work rules: The work rules were adjusted in our favor (trip rigs, avg day, DH credit) to reduce/eliminate furloughs. It was done by keeping the pay cut at 23.9%. Smart move. Taking care of the junior pilots should be "job one". The senior pukes (like me, a top-half captain) will be ok.
PERP: (Early Retirement Program) Good! If the pension legislation passes, I think it will be popular with the over-55 group. (Probably more popular than my plan to force all of them, at gunpoint, to clean their raingutters on a rickety step-ladder!)
The "no" voters are always the most vocal. That's normal. Very few pilots raise their voice to shout "Yes!". Keep in mind that 13% of NWA pilots voted "No" to the largest pay increase in the last 30-years...at a time when the other airlines were taking hits. The bottom 10% of the list has a different perspective, and I appreciate it. Those with high-earning spouses have a different perspective too.
< 50, Blue Book
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