NWA SCABS at Best Western

[ToiletDuck]

Even if they are just as safe as they are now. I won't fly on an airline that tries to get around unions in the first place. They don't bother negotiating they just fire them by the thousands. That's fine then. I won't fly em. safe or not. Plenty other safe carriers over there.

I have a question though. When a major subcontracts from someone like pinnacle. Who is incharge of the MX on those planes?

 

[ultrarunner]

I won't fly on an airline that tries to get around unions in the first place.

Wow, you don't have much of a selection then, do you. All airlines try to get around the CBA's. It's how the game is played man.

I have a question though. When a major subcontracts from someone like pinnacle. Who is incharge of the MX on those planes?

Each individual carrier.

 

[USMCmech]

I have a question though. When a major subcontracts from someone like pinnacle. Who is incharge of the MX on those planes?

In every case, the responsible party for maintence is the owner/operator. This rule applys to Cessnas and Boeings.

"Operator" is included in that rule to cover leased planes. In that case the lease holder is responsible.


If another airline is contracted to provide service, they are still responsible for maintaining their airplanes in an airworthy condition.

 

[Hung Start]

Why will the pilots union not honor the picket line? That seems rather bush league.

 

[goaliemn]

Why will the pilots union not honor the picket line? That seems rather bush league.

From my understanding, the pilots took a cut. They feel the mechanics should too. The head of the pilots union chastited the mechanics awhile back about that.

 

[Hung Start]

Thanks for the answer. Makes perfect sense now, I'm feeling the (union) brotherly love.

This is why nobody looks for the union label anymore. Shall we sing??

 

[ultrarunner]

Why will the pilots union not honor the picket line? That seems rather bush league.

Number 1, it 'aint their fight...

and number 2, it's likely their CBA forbids sympathy stikes...but a NWA'er can comment on that.

 

[goaliemn]

Thanks for the answer. Makes perfect sense now, I'm feeling the (union) brotherly love.

The mechanics union showed alot of brotherly love when they called ramp crew people names after they broke off from the IAM. The current IAM people have commented on this in the paper here in MSP and reminding the mechanics that unions have long memories about things like that.

Thats why the ramp crews are more than happy to cross the line.

 

[Hung Start]

I stand edjumacated. Either my one surviving brain cell forgot that, or,,,I just forgot.

Old age, you know.

 

[ToiletDuck]

UPS Pilots Will Not Haul Northwest Airlines Struck Goods
Tuesday August 16, 12:39 pm ET

LOUISVILLE, Ky., Aug. 16 /PRNewswire/ -- The Independent Pilots Association,
UPS pilots union, has told UPS that they will refuse to fly Northwest
Airlines struck goods. The IPA informed UPS of its position in anticipation
of a possible strike by the mechanics at NWA, which could occur as early as
this Friday.

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"The Independent Pilots Association is strongly committed to the principle
of solidarity with our fellow transportation industry workers. As such, we
will refuse to fly any struck goods should a strike or lock-out occur at
Northwest Airlines involving their airline mechanics," said IPA President
Capt. Tom Nicholson.

He went on to say, "NWA has an extensive cargo operation and is now actively
in the market attempting to line-up aircraft and carriers to provide airlift
to dodge the effects of a strike. We have told UPS that we will refuse to
haul any struck goods placed on our airplanes. UPS pilots have the
contractual right to refuse to move airplanes containing struck goods. We
will simply set the parking brakes on any UPS plane containing NWA struck
goods."

Due to the simmering labor dispute at NWA, IPA Crewmembers have refused to
be transported on NWA since August 5. As a result, UPS has rescheduled its
pilots to other commercial carriers.

"This simple act of refusing to deadhead on NWA has had a significant impact
on the carrier given that more than 40% of the flights in the current bid
package were deadheads on Northwest," said Capt. Nicholson.

Someone's pissed... and the NWA pilots don't feel like even trying.