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This make no sense what so ever:

Why does NWA do the following:

May 3rd - June 7th Timetable

MSY-DTW:

909a - 1241p DC9 (operated daily)
451p - 820p DC9 (operated Sat only)
451p - 820p DC9 (operated daily except Sat)

Q: Why don't they use a A319 on the 4:51 flight operated 6 days a week?

MSY - MSP

750a - 1036a DC9 (operated daily)
544p - 833p DC9 (operated daily)

Q: Why don't they use a A319 on both routes? Just last year they used nothing but A319's on this route.

MSY - MEM

620a - 735a D9-50 (operated daily)
1125a - 1243p D9 (operated daily)
345p - 459p D9-50 (operated daily)

Q: Why don't they use a CRJ for all the flights. Personally the MSY-MEM flight is way too short to use the D9.

After June 7th:

MSY- MSP

540p - 826p

Q: Why do we only get one flight to MSP during the Summer travel season? Stupid to me on NWA's part.

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It seems and looks like NWA is screwing over MSY. I mean come on. All we get are DC-9's. Just this time last year MSY had 4 daily flights to MSP all on A319 aircraft. They had 2 morning departures. I took the 720a flight 4 times in early to mid 2005 and all were on A319's. Now all we see is 2 daily departuers to MSP. One early morning and one late evening all on DC-9s. I am afraid to see what we get once NWA retires its DC9's. I sure as heck will be pissed if all we get are the crummy CRJ's. As I have said it before, MSY deserves more even before Katrina. There is no reason why NWA cannot fly its A319's and even some 757-300's down here. I mean they use the 757-300 from MEM-MSP (that is a 2hr 13min flight) I dont see why we cant pick one up MSY-MSP (that is a 2hr 38min flight) and we have pax demand for it. Especially if all they are gonna offer is one daily flight in the evening to MSP.

NWA what are you doing to us here at MSY?

 

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flyguyMN said:
This make no sense what so ever:

Why does NWA do the following:

May 3rd - June 7th Timetable

MSY-DTW:

909a - 1241p DC9 (operated daily)
451p - 820p DC9 (operated Sat only)
451p - 820p DC9 (operated daily except Sat)

Q: Why don't they use a A319 on the 4:51 flight operated 6 days a week?

MSY - MSP

750a - 1036a DC9 (operated daily)
544p - 833p DC9 (operated daily)

Q: Why don't they use a A319 on both routes? Just last year they used nothing but A319's on this route.

MSY - MEM

620a - 735a D9-50 (operated daily)
1125a - 1243p D9 (operated daily)
345p - 459p D9-50 (operated daily)

Q: Why don't they use a CRJ for all the flights. Personally the MSY-MEM flight is way too short to use the D9.

After June 7th:

MSY- MSP

540p - 826p

Q: Why do we only get one flight to MSP during the Summer travel season? Stupid to me on NWA's part.

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It seems and looks like NWA is screwing over MSY. I mean come on. All we get are DC-9's. Just this time last year MSY had 4 daily flights to MSP all on A319 aircraft. They had 2 morning departures. I took the 720a flight 4 times in early to mid 2005 and all were on A319's. Now all we see is 2 daily departuers to MSP. One early morning and one late evening all on DC-9s. I am afraid to see what we get once NWA retires its DC9's. I sure as heck will be pissed if all we get are the crummy CRJ's. As I have said it before, MSY deserves more even before Katrina. There is no reason why NWA cannot fly its A319's and even some 757-300's down here. I mean they use the 757-300 from MEM-MSP (that is a 2hr 13min flight) I dont see why we cant pick one up MSY-MSP (that is a 2hr 38min flight) and we have pax demand for it. Especially if all they are gonna offer is one daily flight in the evening to MSP.

NWA what are you doing to us here at MSY?


Are you serious? Quit being a Sally, and be glad you have air service, and don't have to ride Greyhound.
 

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Have you ever though that maybe that aircraft doesnt turn and go back to the orginating city...maybe it goes somewhere else.
Second, something about load factor and the availbitly of aircraft. I am guessing that the planning dept, or whatever they call it at NWA ,is guessing that MSY wont have alot of traffic for the next few months.
 

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Because they have cut capacity. They want to have more people than there are seats, that way they can charge a premium. They probably weren't seeling out 4 flights a day, so they cut it to 2. Cutting down the flights saves them gas, mx, crew costs.

They don't care if you don't like the plane, all they care is the plane is pretty much filled and you paid as much as they could get out of you.
 

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mnixon said:
Are you serious? Quit being a Sally, and be glad you have air service, and don't have to ride Greyhound.

We do have Greyhound. In fact we have two of them if you count in Southwest Airlines. So do some research before you post.
 

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Thedude said:
Have you ever though that maybe that aircraft doesnt turn and go back to the orginating city...maybe it goes somewhere else.
Second, something about load factor and the availbitly of aircraft. I am guessing that the planning dept, or whatever they call it at NWA ,is guessing that MSY wont have alot of traffic for the next few months.
We have always had the capacity for use of the A319. And as for the 757-300, if CO can use the 757-300 here on one flight, then by golly, NWA can fill it going to MSP or DTW. Same kind of market as going to IAH on CO. And lets not forget Delta who used the 767-200's and 767-300's here going to ATL. There is a demand for bigger A/C here at MSY, so lets bring em in.
 

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flyguyMN said:
We do have Greyhound. In fact we have two of them if you count in Southwest Airlines. So do some research before you post.

Remember last year when New Orleans got hurricaned and didn't exist for a month or so? Yeah, remember how only 20% of the population remains? That might have something to do with it... Maybe they could throw a 747 to BTR too??
 

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I_Love_Lamp said:
Remember last year when New Orleans got hurricaned and didn't exist for a month or so? Yeah, remember how only 20% of the population remains? That might have something to do with it... Maybe they could throw a 747 to BTR too??

You forget that there are TONS of people living on the Northshore who fly. So it makes sense NOW to increase capacity.
 

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flyguyMN said:
You forget that there are TONS of people living on the Northshore who fly. So it makes sense NOW to increase capacity.

YOURE RIGHT. MSY-NRT 7 TIMES DAILY oneoneoneoneoneoneoneoneone
 

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I_Love_Lamp said:
YOURE RIGHT. MSY-NRT 7 TIMES DAILY oneoneoneoneoneoneoneoneone

No where in my posts does it mention MSY to any other destinations than that of what NWA services now MEM,MSP, and DTW. All I simply stated and brought up was the fact that NWA needs to use bigger a/c on these routes plus also add a few more MSP flights. Unlike yourself, I did research as to what NWA currently flies to MSY and what a/c they use. I also researched my past flights to these routes as to what a/c I flew on as well as looked at old timetables that show that for instance on the MSY-MSP route in late 2004 through pre Kartina 2005, they flew 4 flights on which 2 of them they used A319 or A320 a/c. Now its been almost 9 months since Katrina and since most of the NOLA population has relocated to the Northshore, Hammond, and Baton Rouge areas, and I am sure many of these people fly, it would make sense for NWA to increase its flights back to pre-Katrina status and bring in larger a/c. And by larger a/c I mean the A319 and A320 and maybe one 757-300. That is not out of the realm of what NOLA's pax numbers. It does not take common sense to recgonize the increase in demand for flights out of NOLA.

So before you go blasting my post the way you are and have done, try doing some research yourself, before you open your mouth. Yes you are entitled to your 2 cents but buddy you have gone way over board here.
 

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flyguyMN said:
It would make sense for NWA to increase its flights back to pre-Katrina status and bring in larger a/c.

Maybe they'll do that when New Orleans gets back to it's pre-Katrina population levels.

Besides, NWA isn't a strong player in the Southeast anyway. They'd just as soon let their codeshare partners CAL and DAL handle it. Cities like NOLA are tourist destinations, and have a crappier than average yields. NWA is better off putting their strengths into places they can charge an arm and leg, like FSD or FAR.

Nu
 

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flyguyMN said:
So before you go blasting my post the way you are and have done, try doing some research yourself, before you open your mouth. Yes you are entitled to your 2 cents but buddy you have gone way over board here.

Okay Tom Cruise, let me simplify it for you:

Nobody cares, this thread would be more appropriate on a.net.

Also, the only good part about New Orleans was the overnight. And frankly, if the city were to be washed under 50 feet of water, America would not be missing much.
 

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I see Mesaba is operating Avros out of MKE now. While I don't wish any ill will on the NWA guys, I do find the appearance of the Avro kind of cool.

Is this MKE/Avro thing good news for Mesaba?
 

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I_Love_Lamp said:
Okay Tom Cruise, let me simplify it for you:

Nobody cares, this thread would be more appropriate on a.net.

Also, the only good part about New Orleans was the overnight. And frankly, if the city were to be washed under 50 feet of water, America would not be missing much.

The huricane pretty much flushed alot of the NOLA's lower class citizens too Houston. I guess the crime rate in Houston has soared since then.

New Orleans always struck me as way over-rated
 
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I_Love_Lamp said:
Okay Tom Cruise, let me simplify it for you:

Nobody cares, this thread would be more appropriate on a.net.

Also, the only good part about New Orleans was the overnight. And frankly, if the city were to be washed under 50 feet of water, America would not be missing much.

Best Post Ever.
 

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wmuflyguy said:
The huricane pretty much flushed alot of the NOLA's lower class citizens too Houston. I guess the crime rate in Houston has soared since then.

New Orleans always struck me as way over-rated

WMU,

I lived there for several years, and in fact, learned to fly out at KNEW. When I first moved there, I was like WTF,O? But the place is an aquired taste, and after a while, really grows on you.

You need to learn to operate on "New Orleans Time", which is to say at a stately pace. Ya don't want to over exert yourself as you mosey down to the Popeye's for lunch.

The people are really, really nice, and the friends you make, you make for life. I contrast this with Minneaoplis, which is just chock full of the most miserable SOBs God ever placed on this green earth (except it's not green there, just either white or grey, and everything is covered with dust). There was absolutely no concept of the "social graces" among the population.

In New Orleans, the food absolutely rocks...you can't really throw a stone without hitting a decent place to eat, and the best burgers, BAR NONE, in the whole universe are to be had at the "Port 'o Call" on Esplanade just on the border of the French Quarter. The stew at the Camillia Grill is without compare.

Conversly, the food in Minneapolis blows chunks. I never did find a decent seafood place, and oddly enough, all the steaks (which you would think would be somewhat OK as a lot come from NE) tasted like they had been stored open next to the floor cleaner. In fact, ALL the food tasted like it had already been chewed. Blech, you can keep that place.

If I could, I would move back to Louisiana, maybe someplace on the North Shore.

Nu
 

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I'd imagine NW flies the 753 between MEM and MSP because they are 2 of their hubs. So that should answer why they operate on that route.

The people are really, really nice, and the friends you make, you make for life. I contrast this with Minneaoplis, which is just chock full of the most miserable SOBs God ever placed on this green earth (except it's not green there, just either white or grey, and everything is covered with dust). There was absolutely no concept of the "social graces" among the population.

You've never heard of Minnesota Nice??
 

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NuGuy said:
WMU,

I lived there for several years, and in fact, learned to fly out at KNEW. When I first moved there, I was like WTF,O? But the place is an aquired taste, and after a while, really grows on you.

You need to learn to operate on "New Orleans Time", which is to say at a stately pace. Ya don't want to over exert yourself as you mosey down to the Popeye's for lunch.

The people are really, really nice, and the friends you make, you make for life. I contrast this with Minneaoplis, which is just chock full of the most miserable SOBs God ever placed on this green earth (except it's not green there, just either white or grey, and everything is covered with dust). There was absolutely no concept of the "social graces" among the population.

In New Orleans, the food absolutely rocks...you can't really throw a stone without hitting a decent place to eat, and the best burgers, BAR NONE, in the whole universe are to be had at the "Port 'o Call" on Esplanade just on the border of the French Quarter. The stew at the Camillia Grill is without compare.

Conversly, the food in Minneapolis blows chunks. I never did find a decent seafood place, and oddly enough, all the steaks (which you would think would be somewhat OK as a lot come from NE) tasted like they had been stored open next to the floor cleaner. In fact, ALL the food tasted like it had already been chewed. Blech, you can keep that place.

If I could, I would move back to Louisiana, maybe someplace on the North Shore.

Nu


You're serious? We're talking about New Orleans, LA? Right?
 
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