NWA-Delta Merger = Very few job cuts

[800Dog]

To TBKANE, but you can bet it will be extended. If not, Moak would be castigated.

Bye Bye--General Lee

Right. Just like 70 seats is our line in the sand! General, look at the history of Delta pilot votes. Jr. folks are not our concern. Sad but true!

 

[General Lee]

Right. Just like 70 seats is our line in the sand! General, look at the history of Delta pilot votes. Jr. folks are not our concern. Sad but true!

You can look at it any way you want, but with a BK judge pressuring you to do what the company wants, it is a totally different matter. Now it is different, thanks to Moak bragging he can stop any merger. Ok Lee Moak, prove to us that you can do it and force something good on us. You can bet he knows what direction a combination will bring. He probably has been "briefed", and we do have a pilot on the board of directors too. He should know what is coming.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[ferlo]

How far back does the "no furlough clause" go?

To the most junior guy Delta furloughed...

 

[jetflier]

Just like AWA and USAir? Most of the people who got canned were management types and ground people, like ticket counter and ramp personel. The two hubs that are likely to have some overlap are MEM and CVG, and we only have 56 daily mainline flights at CVG. MEM is probably the same for NWA mainline flights. There is also a gaping hole on the West Coast, with room to add more of those mainline flights at LAX (gates currently occupied by Expressjet E145s, and currently flying routes to get our name out there). We'll see, but there will have to be something in writing to appease everyone involved, and those could be tied to incentives etc.


Bye Bye--General Lee

General,

Recently, our Indy hub flying has begun to show signs of being switched to Compass Airlines.

Compass is also replacing flying out of DTW. Both A320 and DC9 routes.

The company has been placing Compass aircraft on NWA mainline flights with mainline flight numbers.

So, it seems that a pulldown of NWA domestic capacity is being done using Compass and Pinnacle airlines to replace mainline flying.

 

[michael707767]

Right. Just like 70 seats is our line in the sand! General, look at the history of Delta pilot votes. Jr. folks are not our concern. Sad but true!

Scope was sold to get money for the senior pilots. You think furlough protection will be any different in a merger?

 

[PuffDriver]

I realize that Delta isn't very unionized...but my God man, don't you have any sympathy for your non pilot brothers. These guys have families too. With that type of attitude, I wouldn't expect much support from these folks if you guys go on strike to get back to 1989 wages.

Who knows how this whole thing will shake out. Maybe only pilots will get "canned."

We take care of us. Delta takes care of them because of us. That is why you would see minimal, if any, layoffs on the non-union side without layoffs on the union side. Not that it is any of your business.

My military bretherin tell me that tankers are for those who were not good enough for fighters. Is that true?

 

[Tanker Clown]

We take care of us. Delta takes care of them because of us. That is why you would see minimal, if any, layoffs on the non-union side without layoffs on the union side. Not that it is any of your business.

My military bretherin tell me that tankers are for those who were not good enough for fighters. Is that true?

Technically, the tankers are for those who we also not good enough for cargo jets. So you are only partially correct.

My civilian bretherin tell me that Delta is for are for those who aren't good enough for the UPS/FedEX/SWA.

 

[PuffDriver]

Technically, the tankers are for those who we also not good enough for cargo jets. So you are only partially correct.

My civilian bretherin tell me that Delta is for are for those who aren't good enough for the UPS/FedEX/SWA.

I wouldn't know. I turned down all 3 of them. Went for the glamour, and just living the dream.

 

[Tanker Clown]

I wouldn't know. I turned down all 3 of them. Went for the glamour, and just living the dream.

What's more glamourous, the pay cut or the furlough?

 

[PuffDriver]

What's more glamourous, the pay cut or the furlough?

I have yet to actually take a pay cut. Keep flying circles, little boy. I'll keep paying your salary, while others do the real work.

 

[Tanker Clown]

I have yet to actually take a pay cut. Keep flying circles, little boy. I'll keep paying your salary, while others do the real work.

You must not work for Delta then. I appreciate you paying your taxes. After Hillary get's elected, you'll pay more and hopefully I'll get a raise. So, thank you. Just think....all of you haters of the Clown actually pay for my internet connection and computer which allows me to bring my insightful comments to this forum.

 

[jke406]

You must not work for Delta then. I appreciate you paying your taxes. After Hillary get's elected, you'll pay more and hopefully I'll get a raise. So, thank you. Just think....all of you haters of the Clown actually pay for my internet connection and computer which allows me to bring my insightful comments to this forum.

If Hillary is elected, she will downsize your desk job out of existence, and you will end up exactly where you should--on the street, cleaning my windshield. Or selling handjobs for smack.

 

[Tanker Clown]

Uhh, there's like a war or something going on. Besides, a gub'ment job is about as hard to lose as it is for a Delta guy to get a pay raise.

 

[jke406]

Uhh, there's like a war or something going on.

Not with Hillary, Reid and Pelosi running the show!

 

[PuffDriver]

You must not work for Delta then. I appreciate you paying your taxes. After Hillary get's elected, you'll pay more and hopefully I'll get a raise. So, thank you. Just think....all of you haters of the Clown actually pay for my internet connection and computer which allows me to bring my insightful comments to this forum.

Note the change of subject--aka loss of argument. Yes, I fly for Delta, and yes 2007 was my best year yet. the fact that you don't know why reveals how little you know. 2008 won't be as good a 2007, but still 2nd best year ever. That is assuming that there will be no raise with a merger.

Go back and play in your squadron. This pool is for sharks, not small fish in the small pond.

My bet is Hillary downsizes the military like just about every other Democrat before her.

Sorry for the interruption folks. Sometimes people need a spanking, like this small fry.

 

[Tanker Clown]

Note the change of subject--aka loss of argument. Yes, I fly for Delta, and yes 2007 was my best year yet. the fact that you don't know why reveals how little you know. 2008 won't be as good a 2007, but still 2nd best year ever. That is assuming that there will be no raise with a merger.

Go back and play in your squadron. This pool is for sharks, not small fish in the small pond.

My bet is Hillary downsizes the military like just about every other Democrat before her.

Sorry for the interruption folks. Sometimes people need a spanking, like this small fry.

Maybe so, but guys like me don't get downsized. Sorry to dissapoint. I'm too close to retirement.

By the way, either you are a new hire at Delta or don't look at your pay stubs. From what I saw, you guys negotiated yourselves a 32% cut followed by a nice 14% cut. I'm not really sure how you never got your pay cut. Maybe you avoided a furlough...but I'm curious to how you didn't get a pay cut.

 

[PuffDriver]

Maybe so, but guys like me don't get downsized. Sorry to dissapoint. I'm too close to retirement.

By the way, either you are a new hire at Delta or don't look at your pay stubs. From what I saw, you guys negotiated yourselves a 32% cut followed by a nice 14% cut. I'm not really sure how you never got your pay cut. Maybe you avoided a furlough...but I'm curious to how you didn't get a pay cut.

Almost to retirement and haven't ever flown fighters? Lemme guess, by choice, right? HaHaHaHaHaHa

Again, 2007 was my highest pay year ever. 2008 will be the second highest. You are not smart enough to understand why.

Big man in the little squadron, flying circles.

 

[Tanker Clown]

Almost to retirement and haven't ever flown fighters? Lemme guess, by choice, right? HaHaHaHaHaHa

Again, 2007 was my highest pay year ever. 2008 will be the second highest. You are not smart enough to understand why.

Big man in the little squadron, flying circles.

I will never fly fighters because my grades out of Phase II weren't high enough. It would have been neat, but that ship sailed years ago. If I was biter about it, I am over it.

I want to know, did you, or did you not take a pay cut in '03 or '04?

I understand that you did well in '07 (I'm sure you had some longevity stuff kick in). But, did you take a pay cut? Let's put it this way. I realize that '07 was your best year....would it have been better if you guys hadn't taken pay cuts?

 

[michael707767]

Maybe so, but guys like me don't get downsized. Sorry to dissapoint. I'm too close to retirement.

close to retirement and not even 3000 hours? As a tanker pilot? Got to be one of those losers who got a job as the OGCC's butt boy, and spends more time in the office than in the cockpit. Why else would you have so much time to post on here? You obviously have a hard on for airline pilots. Probably some guy in your squadron who left for the airlines years ago banged your wife.

You sure you're a pilot? Cause you talk a lot like the non rated weenies I knew in the Air Force.

 

[jke406]

You sure you're a pilot? Cause you talk a lot like the non rated weenies I knew in the Air Force.

agreed. I bet Tanker Clown washed out of pilot training after bragging to all of his friends he was going to be a fighter pilot. Now he's a shoe clerk.

Sorry about the whole pilot training thing. Now go get the colonel some coffee and shine your shoes.