now they finally pay attention.

[Flyer1015]

When regional pilots start acting like professionals then you can make that argument. These two were hardly "professional" pilots.

WE are professional. You are not.

 

[Brody1]

Just out of curiosity...what would be enough?

The problem is much more complex than meets the eye. Total time can range from nearly all VFR, to including mountain flying, cold weather and icing, etc. Does one want someone who flew out of base as an FO where the wx was mild most of the year, to upgrade in the northeast or the Rockies? Our current seniority system allows for this, and I've seen enough people upgrade who were unprepared for the transition. Ideally, we should all be aware of our limitations and not put ourselves in a situation where we don't have enough experience to draw from. We all know it doesn't work that way. We would have to make some major changes to the current system to ensure that 2500 hr VFR pilots don't upgrade and go to a base that has is far more challenging than they're used to. Again, we all know this won't happen.

To answer your question, I honestly don't know how many hrs of total time would be enough. It depends on the individual, and therein lies the problem.

 

[IamGumbyDammit]

The terminal today is no different than a hallway in high school. It's filled with clique, immature pilots that dont' even have the courtesy say "hello" back to you.
It's all about looking the coolest. Kind of hard to be serious about your job when all you care about is how you look to other pilots or FA's.

 

[Flyer1015]

Or how about enforcing current requirements for an ATP? Of particular interest, "Of good moral character." Thank God there is no cut clear definition of "good moral character" because if there was, I can count quite a few guys who should never have been granted an ATP.

 

[jetjock6]

When regional pilots start acting like professionals then you can make that argument. These two were hardly "professional" pilots.

People in every walk of life and in every profession will do what ever they can get away with. This is a problem with lack of leadership.

This is so much more prevalent with regional carriers today because management is so wrapped around the axle with cutting cost that they have no more quality leadership.

 

[54fighting]

Airmanship has nothing to do with having a crisply pressed shirt. As I was told during military flight training, "we can teach a monkey to fly, what we need are people who can think and make decisions." You are a risk manager.

Looking presentable is just a small piece of the puzzle we call professionalism.

Remember it starts with YOU. You are the face of your airline.

 

[bacardi]

When regional pilots start acting like professionals then you can make that argument. These two were hardly "professional" pilots.

you are a tool.

 

[BrickTop]

you are a tool.

Definitely a sunglass on the head wearer.

 

[CopilotDoug]

Professional pilots deserve a professional wage.

These clowns weren't professionals.

Edit: Sorry, Just realized Browntothebone made the same comment.

 

[cheerios2]

Who gives a flying ******************** what they look like or If they say hi to you in the hallways girls.. would you rather have a doushbag who can fly? or someone who presses there shirt.. and cant...