Notes from the Delta Conference Call...

[General Lee]

Bullsh*t. They are looking to replace 50 seat rj's with 76 seat rj's. The point of outsourcing to the the regionals to begin with was to attack our wages. They are never going to go the other way. You will never see an rj replaced by a mainline aircraft. You are way too optimistic. We should have gotten way better scope in regards to the 76 seater. This is going to bite us in the ass.

If you were hired before Sept 1st, 2001, or have a guy junior to you hired before then, then it will be VERY expensive to furlough you. Anyone hired before that date (or again has someone junior to you who was) and is furloughed will trigger a clause in our joint contract that makes Delta take 6 seats out of EVERY 76 seat RJ. That means a lot less revenue, and time and effort to remove the seats again.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[FmrFreightDog]

Its waaaaaaay past your bed time junior.
Good night!

Wow. Figured you'd be under your rock for a while. Thanks for crawling out and adding some solid intellectual discourse to the discussion. I am truly in awe of your erudition.

I look forward to the day that your "former Northwest pilot" FO knocks a few of your teeth out on day 3 of a 4 day pattern... I mean rotation.... when you look over at him and address him as "junior" or "cupcake."

Oh... wait. I forgot. You're just a flight sim geek who lives in Mom's basement and is baffled as to why his name didn't show up on the ISSL. Good luck with that one.... JUNIOR.

 

[alaskaplt]

I'd like to be on record saying, in one year, we will still be in the same place, still speculating on all this.

Maybe, but pretty much every move the company has made recently makes more sense if you look at it from the perspective that a merger is in the works. For example management is clearly not interested in even creating the image they are negotiating in good faith. If they cared about dragging out the negotiations as long as possible they would not be negotiating in a manner that has the mediator noting self help is an option. Plus alliance with delta, vp of flt ops from delta, anderson taking time to personaly meet with ayer in the middle of merger with nwa, alaska hording cash that makes them even more desirable, new president that is a pure finance guy, etc. Not to mention all the reasons it makes sense plus comments by delta management as well as credit suisse. Only thing that would make it clearer would be if Saretsky popped up in some position at delta.

 

[Ty Webb]

Bullsh*t. They are looking to replace 50 seat rj's with 76 seat rj's. The point of outsourcing to the the regionals to begin with was to attack our wages. They are never going to go the other way. You will never see an rj replaced by a mainline aircraft. You are way too optimistic. We should have gotten way better scope in regards to the 76 seater. This is going to bite us in the ass.

There is more to the economics of operating the right airplanes on the right routes than pilot wages.

AirTran replaced outsourced RJ's with mainline aircraft (717) because that was the most efficient way to do it. Granted, that was the 717 over a CRJ-200, and the 717 is 20% more efficient than the DC9.

 

[Fly4hire]

If you were hired before Sept 1st, 2001, or have a guy junior to you hired before then, then it will be VERY expensive to furlough you. Anyone hired before that date (or again has someone junior to you who was) and is furloughed will trigger a clause in our joint contract that makes Delta take 6 seats out of EVERY 76 seat RJ. That means a lot less revenue, and time and effort to remove the seats again.


Bye Bye--General Lee

Not to mention flushing and retraining the entire Compass list 2x!

 

[Launchpad]

Couple things I noticed on this thread, giving me some flashbacks...

all this talk of buying or merging with AS was being talked about by management and everyone else in 2001 when I was hired. I was told it was talked about for years before that.

The expense to furlough and everything else? We had an iron clad furlough clause from the 01 contract, massive furloughs shortly thereafter.

Just an observation-

 

[Scope out RJ's]

Wow. Figured you'd be under your rock for a while. Thanks for crawling out and adding some solid intellectual discourse to the discussion. I am truly in awe of your erudition.

Yeah, your mom's cooking sucks there, and there's hardly any light.

I look forward to the day that your "former Northwest pilot" FO knocks a few of your teeth out on day 3 of a 4 day pattern... I mean rotation.... when you look over at him and address him as "junior" or "cupcake."

Another internet tough guy talking behind his keyboard. YAWN! Save the tough talk for the elementary school yard, I'm sure their impressed..
Don't worry junior, you'll get your share of landings unless I say so!

Oh... wait. I forgot. You're just a flight sim geek who lives in Mom's basement and is baffled as to why his name didn't show up on the ISSL. Good luck with that one.... JUNIOR.

Oh how creative. I already told you, your mom's cooking was lousy, so I had to leave!

Do any NW guys want to take credit for this junior joke of an f/o? You really need to come up with better material!
Adios princess!

 

[General Lee]

Not to mention flushing and retraining the entire Compass list 2x!

You're right. So, am I still a doudle bag?

Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Fly4hire]

You're right. So, am I still a doudle bag?

Bye Bye---General Lee

Yo GL. The list is done. Battles over. Armistice is signed. Let's make this airline kick *ss, make bucks, and make us all prosper.

Maybe you even *want* to see DC9's hang around now?

 

[Scope out RJ's]

Yo GL. The list is done. Battles over. Armistice is signed. Let's make this airline kick *ss, make bucks, and make us all prosper.

Maybe you even *want* to see DC9's hang around now?

Heyas fly:
I'm with you. Its over, lets move on!

 

[bravodude]

Wonderful. Another PFT swa skirt shows up to put her .02 in. Which airplanes, Westjet, or Volaris?
Listen rookie. Stop back when you have less time. Until then, maybe you should concentrate on getting your own house in order, FNG!

Again, good night junior!

Before you talk to me about Westjet or Volaris why dont you look at your own house first. How many rj partners do you guys have, how many international code share partners do you have. I wish I could say that I understand why you are upset but in reality I don't care.

 

[Scope out RJ's]

Before you talk to me about Westjet or Volaris why dont you look at your own house first. How many rj partners do you guys have, how many international code share partners do you have. I wish I could say that I understand why you are upset but in reality I don't care.

Then why do bother to comment or respond? Oh yeah, its because as a FNG who paid for his job he is worried about the jobs being outsourced at his once precious company and now worried about a furlough!
Like I said, get your own house in order rookie.
AMF!