Northwest to shrink and get rid of more DC9's than planned?

[The Victors]

35 year old DC-9s and 25 year old 747s will do that to you.

35 year old DC-9's? Don't you mean 45 year old polished turds?

 

[pianoman]

I can't believe you idiots could be flying my family around.

Do you really think that pilots have any effect on your airline's fleet plan, destinations, or career expectations?

If you all spent half the time working together that you do trying to slit each other's throats, we'd be in a much better place.

Didn't we get over "my dad can beat up your dad" around the 3rd grade or so?

 

[Capt. Caucasian]

I can't believe you idiots could be flying my family around.

Do you really think that pilots have any effect on your airline's fleet plan, destinations, or career expectations?

If you all spent half the time working together that you do trying to slit each other's throats, we'd be in a much better place.

Didn't we get over "my dad can beat up your dad" around the 3rd grade or so?

M-

Where's the entertainment if they all stop bickering? It's almost as fun to watch as the other side of the table. Well, I guess that side is your side now. Maybe I'll hear ya around thirty north sometime.

J-

 

[Spectre]

Can the DC9s and A319s pay for their own fuel? Frontier is selling 2 A319s and 2 A318s to a Russian carrier, and getting larger A320s in the meantime (a previous order). Maybe those planes can't carry enough passengers to pay for the extra fuel costs. The MD88 can carry 142 pax supposedly, and maybe that is enough to help pay for fuel and fixed costs. I know we are parking some MD88s and a few older 757s, but maybe because they are coming up on their lease expirations. If you own the planes outright (like the DC9s) and they cannot pay for the fuel, then what would happen to them?


Bye Bye--General Lee

Seems to me, Frontier and JetBlue have a slight advantage here as they can adjust their fleet size by selling older Airbus. NWA and DAL can't give away a DC-9 or MD88 in today's aircraft market, therefore, you park them.

 

[General Lee]

You "frequent" Rio and Vienna, eh? How nice. I hear Prague is a good place to find gay men too. You should check it out... not that there's anything wrong with that.

"tootles"

Is that where you found your "friend?" That's nice. Anyway, I go there because I can, and I don't want to go to Minot, Rochester, Duluth, or Lansing. I bet you know some good "dancing" bars at those places too. Do you do "dance offs" when you are there? I bet you are hysterical. Go dude, GO!!! Do the lawnmower and the buzz-saw. You rock you Chippendale.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

Seems to me, Frontier and JetBlue have a slight advantage here as they can adjust their fleet size by selling older Airbus. NWA and DAL can't give away a DC-9 or MD88 in today's aircraft market, therefore, you park them.

We can park them and use them again. They, JB and F9, need the money and have to sell them. We parked a few MD88s during BK, and the lessors pretty much would do anything we wanted just to get them off the ground and back into the air.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Superpilot92]

You "frequent" Rio and Vienna, eh? How nice. I hear Prague is a good place to find gay men too. You should check it out... not that there's anything wrong with that.

"tootles"

LMAO thats funny, thanks :beer:

 

[FmrFreightDog]

Is that where you found your "friend?" That's nice. Anyway, I go there because I can, and I don't want to go to Minot, Rochester, Duluth, or Lansing. I bet you know some good "dancing" bars at those places too. Do you do "dance offs" when you are there? I bet you are hysterical. Go dude, GO!!! Do the lawnmower and the buzz-saw. You rock you Chippendale.


Bye Bye--General Lee

Weakest reply of the week (wow, that sounds repetitive). It was pretty clever if you ask me. I heard that once you get below the equator, they give you free beer if you volunteer to take part in the Donkey Show. Tell me, how does that cold draft Bramha taste with a side of sacrificed dignity and a sore cornhole???

 

[fam62c]

Sorry I don't go to Detoilet like you do. I frequent places like Rio and Vienna. Have fun in Rochester and Lansing.

And, I have never flown the MD88, and hopefully plan not to. Face it, your diesel 9 sucks. Do you have to crank start it?


Bye Bye--General Lee

God, is this what it's come to? Pilots making fun of other pilots because they fly smaller/older planes and don't get to fly to international destinations? This business is largely about the luck of the draw and to look down on another airline pilot because they were less lucky is pretty low. Just remember, the lucky ones today may be the unlucky ones tomorrow. You're no beter than anyone else GL, you have just been more fortunate than some. It's nice that you have the luxury of not having to "lower" yourself to fly an MD-80 or a DC-9, someday you may not have that option. Anybody who thinks they are safe in this industry may get a rude awakening someday. Ten years ago nobody would have ever forseen DAL in Chapter 11. Anybody want to stake their life on betting that it couldn't happen again? Someday those nice new 777's and the routes that they fly could be owned by a foreign carrier flush with cash and willing to "create value" for the DAL shareholders. Those 737/777 delivery slots are probably worth some cash on the open market as well.

 

[NuGuy]

God, is this what it's come to? Pilots making fun of other pilots because they fly smaller/older planes and don't get to fly to international destinations?

Heyas Fam,

I had a buddy in college. Nice guy...kind of low key, very mellow, but sharp and what'd you call a "good sh!t".

Anyway, there was this girl who thought she was MUCH hotter than she really was. She starts pestering my buddy to go out on a date. Finally, he relents, and takes her out to a nice "first date" kind of place. Although she came from a nice family, to my friend's dismay, not only did she have atrocious table manners, but she ordered the most expensive thing on the menu, and told him the whole evening how lucky he was that she went out with him. She was basically a obnoxious, spoiled loudmoud with so-so looks.

Needless to say, he never called her back for a second date. After being jilted, she started really talking some sh!t about my buddy, about how she was doing him a favor, what a nerd he was, what a cheap car he drove...yadda yadda yadaa. In the end, all my buddy (who was about as mild mannered as you could get) would say about the incident was "gosh, I sure am glad that's someone elses problem. "

Nu

 

[jke406]

That was even weaker than the General's silly stories.

 

[dtfl]

Until something is announced this is all nothing more than "Opinion" in which i think is wrong. NWA already announced the retirement of some DC9s to keep the ship lean in the middle of the oil mess. IMHO those 68 DC9s will be around. Those planes are FULL and they aren't just going to give up those markets. We shall see. It is pretty typical to see that its DAL guys trying to spread BS "opinions" about NWA though

And the post above from NWARedtail about the NWA guys being on the bottom of the SLI Delta proposed isnt BS? Its absolutely false.

 

[General Lee]

God, is this what it's come to? Pilots making fun of other pilots because they fly smaller/older planes and don't get to fly to international destinations? This business is largely about the luck of the draw and to look down on another airline pilot because they were less lucky is pretty low. Just remember, the lucky ones today may be the unlucky ones tomorrow. You're no beter than anyone else GL, you have just been more fortunate than some. It's nice that you have the luxury of not having to "lower" yourself to fly an MD-80 or a DC-9, someday you may not have that option. Anybody who thinks they are safe in this industry may get a rude awakening someday. Ten years ago nobody would have ever forseen DAL in Chapter 11. Anybody want to stake their life on betting that it couldn't happen again? Someday those nice new 777's and the routes that they fly could be owned by a foreign carrier flush with cash and willing to "create value" for the DAL shareholders. Those 737/777 delivery slots are probably worth some cash on the open market as well.

Thanks for that diatribe Dad....... Anyway, my seniority affords me the ability to go places I enjoy. I have options, and probably will continue to have them. I have put in my time, and I take this job seriously, but also enjoy it. Nobody knows what will happen in the future, but one thing is for sure, I won't be on a crappy DC9 flying to Rochester, MN or Duluth. I never said I was "better" than anyone else, but I do fly to more exciting cities. Have a great one.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

That was even weaker than the General's silly stories.

All true, Jke, all true.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

Heyas Fam,

I had a buddy in college. Nice guy...kind of low key, very mellow, but sharp and what'd you call a "good sh!t".

Anyway, there was this girl who thought she was MUCH hotter than she really was. She starts pestering my buddy to go out on a date. Finally, he relents, and takes her out to a nice "first date" kind of place. Although she came from a nice family, to my friend's dismay, not only did she have atrocious table manners, but she ordered the most expensive thing on the menu, and told him the whole evening how lucky he was that she went out with him. She was basically a obnoxious, spoiled loudmoud with so-so looks.

Needless to say, he never called her back for a second date. After being jilted, she started really talking some sh!t about my buddy, about how she was doing him a favor, what a nerd he was, what a cheap car he drove...yadda yadda yadaa. In the end, all my buddy (who was about as mild mannered as you could get) would say about the incident was "gosh, I sure am glad that's someone elses problem. "

Nu

So, then you married her? Were you that desperate? Did you go to UND? You were an Undie, right?

Bye Bye--General Lee