Northwest Airlines Files 1113

[Longhorn]

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/051012/cgw027.html?.v=31

 

[zonker]

Steenland is a vile, disgusting piece of human garbage.

 

[FL000]

Is this the part where the contracts starts to dissolve?

 

[mach none]

This is where the court voids all the contracts and the company gets to impose their own work rules and pay. Take it or leave is what it boils down too.

 

[On Your Six]

This is where the court voids all the contracts and the company gets to impose their own work rules and pay. Take it or leave is what it boils down too.

Why didn't I go to Law School? I could have made serious cash squashing labor groups...

 

[mach none]

Why didn't I go to Law School? I could have made serious cash squashing labor groups...

Because you have a soul.

 

[BeCareful!]

My heart goes out to our friends at NWA. The script was written by U management, and watching the NWA-sequel is going to be painful.

Good luck, guys!

 

[CA1900]

Un-farking-believable. And this is the airline that, time and time again, refused to go along with the fare hikes that would have helped us all survive when the costs were rising. The management group should be in jail.

 

[Heavy Set]

My heart goes out to our friends at NWA. The script was written by U management, and watching the NWA-sequel is going to be painful.

Good luck, guys!

Keep in mind that the former USAirways CFO under Siegel is now the CFO at NWA - no surprise there...

 

[FDJ2]

This is where the court voids all the contracts and the company gets to impose their own work rules and pay. Take it or leave is what it boils down too.

Not necessarily true. Can you name an ALPA contract that was voided through this process? Hawaiian pilots shot down a TA in Ch11 recently. When the Company went to the judge the judge told the company that neither the company nor the union would be happy with an imposed contract. HAA management then had to go back to the table and negotiate. The HAA pilots ended with a much better deal then what management wanted them to eat and an amendable date in 2007.

It's not a take it or leave it deal.

 

[320AV8R]

It's not a "done deal", however.............

Dougie will shaft the pilots, (and all other employee groups), faster than you can say executive bonus.

All the "nice talk" about consenual deals, etc is pure bull. Steenland is an ex- Lorenzo lawyer.....(he only tells "true lies"). He wants to start the 51 day clock, act like he's negotiating......and then WHAMMO !!!!! (Anybody remember AMFA ?)

Neal Cohen wrote the book at USAir, now he's at NWA, and the lead NWA negotiator's name is Ben Dover.

320AV8R

 

[Lear70]

Not necessarily true. Can you name an ALPA contract that was voided through this process?

It's not a take it or leave it deal.

It most certainly IS a "take it or leave it" deal.

USAirways was told by the bankruptcy judge, "If you can't come to an agreement, I'm going to void the contract." They gave in to just about everything management asked for.

United did the same thing.

Both "agreements" included the death of the pension plan, requirements for retirees to pay their own medical insurance, and huge changes in flying pay rates, work rules, basically taking them to the mat.

If they had refused, the judge WOULD have imposed his OWN ideas of what was "fair" - both sides feared that, but labor fears it more because, once the judge rules, that's IT. It's FINAL. NO NEGOTIATING, only the ability to strike which would shut the airline down permanently.

Get educated on the subject...

 

[pw4000]

Aren't you glad you dident support the other unions at NWA? Smooth move alpa

 

[NEWSOUTH]

I agree with Lear70

Yea...I'm going with Lear70 on this one. The fat lady just sang. Good luck to everyone. This sucks....

 

[dbrownie]

Aren't you glad you dident support the other unions at NWA? Smooth move alpa

What does that have to do with anything?

The judge will decide how screwed I get, not the other unions or ALPA.

Dave B