No longer a rumor - United will hire..

[SonicPig]

I was hired early 1999, my class was 20 White Males. 16 directly from the fighter community. Class ahead of us was 19 WM and 1 Black Male. He's a Zoomer, fromer Eagle driver and a Weapons School Instructor, extremely qualified.
My experience was that if you were a commuter/regional guy you really had to do something besides flying the line to get hired. Mayble, IP,LCA or leave your commuter/regional to move to another airline that flew bigger jets.
Having said that, I think interviewing will be different now. If you're a junior RJ Capt somewhere, give it a shot. Especially if you aren't supporting a family. Hell, you don't have to stop applying elsewhere.
Some of the guys bashing here got turned down 2 and 3 times. Guess I can't blame them for being pissed.

Later,
The Pig.

 

[Lear70]

I actually didn't think the process was that bad, but I also have interviewed at some places that were run by total pricks, so I might be a bit shell-shocked to begin with.

I did have the (mis)fortune of encountering that lovely HR lady everyone talks about, and I know I did or said something she didn't like, although it's pretty hard to be friendly to someone who's that openly antagonistic, which I'm not sure was part of the test or just her normal demeanor.

The interviewing Captain was actually pretty cool, it was the two of them interviewing me at the same time, going back and forth, a bit disconcerting trying to figure out which one to answer, how much time to spend looking and talking to each one on the same answer, etc. It was a mind game, although to what end I have no idea.

Pretty needless all-in-all, and I knew I had blown it when we're walking out and the Captain says, "I thought you did well, but maybe next time." Don't know why I didn't get it, but the thanks, but no thanks letter came a week later.

In retrospect, it's the best thing that could have ever happened, as I had a stable job with a decent income during the post 9/11 era that I wouldn't have had if I'd have stayed there, plus it made me dig harder into my interviewing skills and I've had pretty good luck interviewing since then.

Needless to say, I'm not applying when the window opens. Don't need that kind of stress or aggravation in my life worrying about some silly mind game interview or scantron $40 app fee bullsh*t. I'm sure many people will go on to have good careers there, just not me.

Hopefully their HR process will have woken up and smelled the 21st century when they start back up again, including the abolishment of the EEOC crap and the stupid HR mind games and the foolishness of a sim check for a 7,000+ hour pilot, and just give someone a straightforward interview to see if they'd fit the corporate culture and they're someone you could fly a 3 or 4 day trip with.

That's all this job really is,,,

 

[EMB170Pilot]

F em! I hated the flying. Rude people in ORD and IAD (mostly idiots in IAD), white stains, hell even 905% of IND rampers and gate agents are pathetic.

No thank you

 

[Stan]

The problem with hiring in the 90's was not who they were hiring, it was who they were turning down. In 96 they interviewed 4500 pilots to hire 500 (almost all who were white males by the way). They turned down 4000 qualified pilots most of whom would have been great employees. I used to tell my friends who had interviews that it was kind of like lets make a deal, they are conducting multiple interviews at a time and if you walk in the right room it is yours to screw up. If you walk in the wrong room there is pretty much nothing you can do to get the job. It was a screwed up way to hire pilots but they did not end up with bad pilots/employees they just pissed off a whole sh##load of good pilots that interviewed for no reason.

 

[UAL-GSO]

Ah "Yonited" bashing... I'm gettin' a little nostalgic here! This post reminds me of the good old days on FI.com! Round and round we go...

 

[Booker]

hell even 905% of IND rampers and gate agents are pathetic.

Yeah, that's pretty bad. Even when I used to fly turns out of PHL, I'd say no more than 603% of them had bad attitudes.

 

[UAL-GSO]

Yeah, that's pretty bad. Even when I used to fly turns out of PHL, I'd say no more than 603% of them had bad attitudes.

I have to disagree with you there Booker, I routinely see bad attitudes in the 658-732% range in PHL.

 

[Booker]

I have to disagree with you there Booker, I routinely see bad attitudes in the 658-732% range in PHL.

Maybe that's the difference between a "WAG" and a "SWAG"!

 

[mule]

The problem with hiring in the 90's was not who they were hiring, it was who they were turning down. In 96 they interviewed 4500 pilots to hire 500 (almost all who were white males by the way). They turned down 4000 qualified pilots most of whom would have been great employees. I used to tell my friends who had interviews that it was kind of like lets make a deal, they are conducting multiple interviews at a time and if you walk in the right room it is yours to screw up. If you walk in the wrong room there is pretty much nothing you can do to get the job. It was a screwed up way to hire pilots but they did not end up with bad pilots/employees they just pissed off a whole sh##load of good pilots that interviewed for no reason.

Sounds like SWA today...

 

[Patriot328]

Ah "Yonited" bashing... I'm gettin' a little nostalgic here! This post reminds me of the good old days on FI.com! Round and round we go...

If you can't get enough, go back in time!

http://web.archive.org/web/20000815103024/www.flightinfo.com/wwwboard/wwwboard.shtml

 

[UAL-GSO]

Oh the good old days!....

 

[Tank]

Anyone know if there will be new minimums published when hiring begins?

 

[ualdriver]

Anyone know if there will be new minimums published when hiring begins?

All that stuff will be coming out shortly. I don't know exactly when but soon!

 

[EMB170Pilot]

Yeah, that's pretty bad. Even when I used to fly turns out of PHL, I'd say no more than 603% of them had bad attitudes.

haha oops. I ment 90%

 

[Booker]

haha oops. I ment 90%

I know. Just thought I'd add some levity amid the HR smack.