No furloughs at Delta!

[FishandFly]

matthew 6:25

 

[JustaNumber]

matthew 6:25

matthew 6:25 = urban outdoorsmen = no thanks, I think I'll do a little worrying.

 

[701EV]

Take a cold shower and get rid of your hard on for bald eagles and freedom and learn some real history.

You Sir are a DUMBASS!

It is because of people who have hard ons for BALD EAGLES and FREEDOM that you can open your mouth and talk like a DUMBASS.

Don't you ever forget it junior!

701EV

 

[hockeypilot44]

Delta is promising no furloughs due to the capacity reductions this fall!

How are they going to accomplish a 15% Intl reduction and a 10% domestic reduction without furloughs?

Easy, reduce their regional partners flying by 20%!

Comair,Skywest, ASA, etc and let them furlough instead!

Do you work for Delta? Where did you hear this? This seems like flamebait to me.

 

[Speedtape]

He is hoping it want be him! Regionals want be reduced. You have to have feed to put on the planes that are still flying. A Regional may be the best place to be right now!

 

[79%N1]

You are right. Unfortunately the economy will be the least of our problems ahead. It's gonna get ugly.

And just what will be our greatest problem ahead, Kreskin? Enlighten me so I can prepare. Locusts? Drought? Do tell.

 

[General Lee]

just remember: management lies whenever they open their mouths.

There will be furloughs at Delta, and one or two airlines will again go bankrupt. This is not a good time to be "the world's largest airline."

Maybe, maybe not. There will be DISPLACEMENTS, no doubt. But, when there are pilots displaced, there are also shortages due to pilots being in training. If that happens this Fall and into Winter, then our busy season next Spring and Summer will occur right when those in training will finish. If there were no displacements, and only plane parkings, then furloughs would result. Hauenstein is trying to align plane types to bases to find the right fit for revenue, and people will move around. I expect SILs (no work for the month and 55 hours of pay) and reduced ALVs (average line values), through the Winter until we start up Spring flying again in March. I doubt furloughs would occur, but I guess there is a slight chance. The cost of flushing out Compass and taking 6 seats out of 76 seat RJs also is factored in there.

As far as being the World's largest airline, that is not a bad thing due to our current economic standing. We have cut back on flying PROACTIVELY, and we are able to respond faster than most on putting the right plane on the right route (fleet flexibility). We have a good cash position, we are hedged well for 09 (61% at $1.99), and unfortunately we are more competitive due to lack of pension obligations that we lost in BK. Other airlines out there (like United and USAir) will have tougher times in the near future, due to debt payments being due (United) and employee strife issues (USAir). We will see how it all turns out. I am not saying DL is immune to all problems, but I am saying we are fairly well positioned to ride this out. (S&P just elevated us to a "buy" and thinks we will survive)


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

He is hoping it want be him! Regionals want be reduced. You have to have feed to put on the planes that are still flying. A Regional may be the best place to be right now!

With oil going back up? Ummm, no. Last time oil went up at Delta we got rid of 100 50 seaters. That was the only good thing about high oil IMO.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[crj567]

As far as being the World's largest airline, that is not a bad thing due to our current economic standing.

I Blow-Blow--General Lee[/QUOTE]


There is a long list of airlines which have previously held that title, and which are on the ropes now (or out of business....) What makes you so different? Africa? Maybe you can talk them into painting a lime-green sperm on the side of some planes to try and sell tickets-(oh, wait-been there, done that!)

-Maybe Steenland can help you out-I'm sure you will cme up with something... Just give "goatee-boy" a ring!

 

[SEVEN]

And just what will be our greatest problem ahead, Kreskin? Enlighten me so I can prepare. Locusts? Drought? Do tell.

Where have you been? Are you living under a rock? Idealists don't ever want to see the truth. Realists, however have their eyes open to the reality we all face. Let me guess, you believe there will me no war in the near future. Writing is on the wall.

 

[Monster Buck]

He is hoping it want be him! Regionals want be reduced. You have to have feed to put on the planes that are still flying. A Regional may be the best place to be right now!

Air Tran and SWA don't have any.

A Regional may be the best place to be right now![/QUOTE]

hhhhhmmmmmmm.....no

 

[Monster Buck]

Where have you been? Are you living under a rock? Idealists don't ever want to see the truth. Realists, however have their eyes open to the reality we all face. Let me guess, you believe there will me no war in the near future. Writing is on the wall.

He may lean toward idealism but you sound more like a pessimist than a realist.

 

[Monster Buck]

As far as being the World's largest airline, that is not a bad thing due to our current economic standing.

I Blow-Blow--General Lee

There is a long list of airlines which have previously held that title, and which are on the ropes now (or out of business....) What makes you so different? Africa? Maybe you can talk them into painting a lime-green sperm on the side of some planes to try and sell tickets-(oh, wait-been there, done that!)

-Maybe Steenland can help you out-I'm sure you will cme up with something... Just give "goatee-boy" a ring![/QUOTE]


CRJ567....you're such a wanker!

 

[Buzo]

[/QUOTE]CRJ567....you're such a wanker![/QUOTE]

Couldn't have said it any better.

 

[General Lee]

As far as being the World's largest airline, that is not a bad thing due to our current economic standing.

I Blow-Blow--General Lee


There is a long list of airlines which have previously held that title, and which are on the ropes now (or out of business....) What makes you so different? Africa? Maybe you can talk them into painting a lime-green sperm on the side of some planes to try and sell tickets-(oh, wait-been there, done that!)

-Maybe Steenland can help you out-I'm sure you will cme up with something... Just give "goatee-boy" a ring!

There you go AGAIN, with the sexual conotations. Wow, you really LIKE me. Well, it's not mutual. Anyway, at least we all know you have another job (fry maker at McRonalds) if things continue to go downhill at DCI. There will be more belt tightening at DCI while you guys fight over the scraps. Fact is more DC9s are coming out of retirement, and that is a good thing. When next Spring/Summer comes around, hopefully the economy will have recovered somewhat, and mainline will again stregthen. Regardless, we need to dump more of those 50 seaters, since they again will drag on the bottomline, especially with higher fuel.

And, what is your other obsession with Doug Steenland? He is on the board, and was kicked out of upper management thanks to RA not liking him much. He does not make day to day decisions. Ed Bastain is now incharge of NWA until SOC. Again, your ignorance is showing. Go clean the stalls please, and don't take the urinal cakes home with you again.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Papa Woody]

They are not interested in world domination dumba$$, they want us and Israel to stop bombing their villages and killing their sons, daughters, wives, husbands, etc......Ever heard of blow back? From a third party view it looks like we are the ones more interested in world domination. How many countries do we have military bases in now? Oh yet its to protect "freedom around the world" HAHA. I'm not saying Iran or Syria is in the right here but it takes a mature people to admit when they have been wrong and so far neither side (US/Israel-Islamic Middle East) is mature enough to settle it like adults so we take turns killing each other. Take a cold shower and get rid of your hard on for bald eagles and freedom and learn some real history. I've said it before that most people only support Israel because they believe some guy name Jesus is coming back (and soon!!!!) and Israel must be in place for that to happen. Keep blaming Obama, he has been the one aggravating the problem for decades now and its not our unquenchable thirst for cheap oil or our Imperial desires........I hope they aren't teaching this "America can do no wrong propaganda bullsh!t" in our schools today. Thanks for the prediction Nostradamus, you seem just as clueless as any other "Idol Crowd" American.......but then again its easier to just regurgitate what your favorite pundit says than to actually develop an original thought of your own. Could it be that we might be the "bad" guys in the region?

Dude! Time to ask daddy for another Benjamin so you can get a fresh pair of Doc Marten's!

That's so rad that you can grasp this stuff!

 

[FishandFly]

I've always wondered. Why did delta buy all of the inefficient 50 seaters in the first place?

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

To conquer scope. Fuel was cheap, pilots were cheap. Replace the 737s with multiple CRJ legs.

I'd say they accomplished their goal quite well.

 

[Speedtape]

Air Tran and SWA don't have any.

AT and SWA are LCC's. Is Delta?

A Regional may be the best place to be right now!

hhhhhmmmmmmm.....no[/QUOTE]

Time will tell! Are you on the bottom of some list?

 

[ACL65PILOT]

hhhhhmmmmmmm.....no

Time will tell! Are you on the bottom of some list?[/QUOTE]


This time I would be worried if I was in the bottom 5%. We at DAL are still leaner than pre 9-11. There is a heck of a lot less fat to cut.

As for the regionals. Don the flack jacket. I am not sure if you will see many jets replace the 50 seat flying. (DAL's goal is to replace three 50 seaters with one MD-90. We are looking at having 50 on them in two to three years)