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No arbitration in SWA and F9 deal

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airlinepilot

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Just finished listening to SWAPA teleconference. SWAPA Pres. made a very clear statement. Said there would not let this go to arbitration. He said if SWAPA could not reach a good deal then they would shoot the deal down. Hope this ends all the chit-chat on here about arbitration.
 
If SWAPA agrees to arbitration then F9 pilots would get binding arbitration and a fair seniority integration. Why would any SWAPA pilot want that.
 
If SWAPA agrees to arbitration then F9 pilots would get binding arbitration and a fair seniority integration. Why would any SWAPA pilot want that.

They may have no choice if SWA proceeds with the acquisition. Hopefully a fair and equitable integrated list can be achieved through negotiations.
 
What was said during the teleconference was that SWAPA would never allow this to go to arbitration. IF they could not work out a satisfactory deal between our pilots and the F9 pilots (which we would all vote on) then SWAPA would kill the deal upfront. Carl also said our first priority was the our contract and getting that done. Clearly we have more leverage now that Gary wants the F9 deal.
 
SWA has stated publicly that they will not proceed without the agreement in place. I choose to believe them, perhaps with too much trust. Regardless, it is trust management has earned from me despite SWAPA/SWA differences, as of late.

shootr
 
This is very simple. No SWAPA pilot will vote for a contract which will adversely affect their seniority. As F9 is in bankruptcy the SWAPA terms will be favorable to SWAPA in every way except that the F9 pilots will retain their jobs, all be it at the bottom of the SWA list. Don't kid your selves.

The F9 pilots have to decide if it would be better to be stapled to the SWA list or risk another integration with the likes of a regional carrier.
 
IF they could not work out a satisfactory deal between our pilots and the F9 pilots (which we would all vote on) then SWAPA would kill the deal upfront.

How does SWAPA intend to "kill the deal upfront"? Does SWA need SWAPA's permission to acquire F9?
 
Technically, no, but it sounds like for the sake of keeping their culture intact, that Gary Kelly has stated that he wants F9, but not at the expense of losing the support of his pilots. So it sounds like they do in fact have the ability to 'kill the deal'.
 
How does SWAPA intend to "kill the deal upfront"? Does SWA need SWAPA's permission to acquire F9?

Exactly...sounds like an inflated view of their importance to management...Herbie is long gone, remember that. They aren't going to "kill" a deal mgt wants just because the SW pilots have a hissy fit. Mark.My.Words.
 

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