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[FamilyGuy]

Once again you have no idea what you're talking about. 3 years ago I personally gave the then Chief Pilot a method for fixing the endless time it took to get the paperwork for a simple maintenance procedure done. He told me that it was a great idea. Think they fixed it??? NO!!
Another pilot here told the company how to greatly reduce the costs of catering while still getting the same quality. He did a large study and got the data to all the right managers, who promptly blew him off.
There are numerous other example of pilots here trying to "fix" what management can't. Management can't get out of its own way.
Do you realize that the US took over 2 countries and formed 2 democracies faster than it's taking NetJets to field a Blackberry???
If management here had listened even a little bit to the suggestions given to them over the years this place would be a much better company. It's egos and "know it all" attitudes that are hurting this company.
You can try to spin all you want. You know the real deal and so do we. I'm not really sure who you're trying to "turn" but it's not working

hydra - this supports my point. If you have all the solutions then become the managers and fix the problem. Dont sit back and just b!tch about it.

As for the 2 countries and 2 democracies - I'll withhold judgment. Neither the democracies or the blackberries seem to be going that well right now (I'd like to be able to concede the point though, since I voted for Bush)

 

[x402]

If you have all the solutions then become the managers and fix the problem. Dont sit back and just b!tch about it.

3 years ago I personally gave the then Chief Pilot a method for fixing the endless time it took to get the paperwork for a simple maintenance procedure done. He told me that it was a great idea

Another pilot here told the company how to greatly reduce the costs of catering while still getting the same quality. He did a large study and got the data to all the right managers, who promptly blew him off.


I don't see our guys sitting back bitching, there are 2 examples. There are hundreds more and we get turned away every day. We are pilots and enjoy our jobs. Managment, good management that is, uses the assets they have to improve the product and bottom line. The upper managment at NJA, Inc. does not consider the pilot group to be an asset, they see us as a liability. Turf wars inside middle and upper mgt are destroying NJA. We have offer a partnership, they tell us 'We don't get the BIG picture.' We have pilots who have just left mgt that validate this view. So you see we have tried from outside and from inside, we'll continue to attempt to effect positive change through the contract negotiation process.

 

[Fracster]

Its just the mentality of NutJets. Look at CMHTroll. There are morons like him/her running rampant.


The sad truth is there are some tremendously talented people in CMH. Many of these employees have spoken up, made great suggestions just to be turned down by some management person whos mental acumen is well below par.
If the idea did not register in the mind of management it never existed. The egos are so large they are unable to accept constructive criticism from an hourly employee. Atleast they are consistent....consistently incompetent that is.

 

[DO-82 driver]

I am no longer going to pull the rabbit out of my hat. I will do as I am told, let the Casino call the shots, I will not fly tired, sick, or hungry, if I see a train wreck ready to happen...I will step aside and let it happen. I will fly my plane with the highest degree of safty and professionalism. I will not fly broken planes and I will not operate in the "gray". I will treat the Owners the way they deserve to be treated.


I don't need to do anything to disrupt this operation...The folks in CMH are fully capable of doing that on their own.

Once again....this pilot group has not engaged in ANY ILLEGAL work action. If we did, don't you think this Management would have cried "foul" a long time ago. They haven't bvecasue they CAN'T. We aren't messing things us.....We're just not covering for the one who really are.

 

[Diesel]

FamilyWhore

I'm not on the negotiating committee. Guys a lot smarter than me are taking care of that.

It's sad that people will think that your opinions are the views of those in the casino. There are some really great people up there and your views put them in a bad light.

Of course you're lucky it's the internet. You can post all day long in anonymity.

 

[El Chupacabra]

I have already told you what needs to be done. Raise management fees and pay the pilots.

Do I need to move to CMH and take a managers job to get that done?

Oh... and don't sell airplanes that you can't get on the property fast enough. And don't sell off core fleets.

Oh... and stop using Citation X's to back up G-IV/V flights. Don't you know NJI and NJA are separate companys? We have our own owners we need to fly.

 

[Some Dude]

Family Guy I just don't like you. Why would anyone want to get into management here? Heck the leaders change every two years so why work for a boss that won't be here later? Why be a manager and have your department turned upside down with a new president every two years?

I would never work in management here. I wouldn't want to work with idiots and persons that lie to each other and the pilots. The flight department positions are filled with alcoholics, persons who have sexual misconduct charges against them, persons who falsified FAA documents, etc. That doesn't sound like a group I would want to work with. We have a degenerate management team. There are a few good apples it's just too bad their talents are made to rot on the tree instead of being picked to serve.

 

[hydrarkt]

hydra - this supports my point. If you have all the solutions then become the managers and fix the problem. Dont sit back and just b!tch about it.

Why on Earth would we want to become managers with NutJets?? To try to fix problems? That wouldn't help. You know damn well that the bureaucracy there is terrible. Nothing significant ever gets done because of all the territorial infighting that is prevalent there. We have come up with many ideas to try to help. It is the manager's job to implement those ideas if it will help.

 

[Schrode]

I have already told you what needs to be done. Raise management fees and pay the pilots.

Sad part is . . . management DOES raise the management fee on the aircraft. I believe it is 3% minimum each year. In 2000, management contacted the owners advising them the current contract with the pilots was soon to be amended and the management fee would need to have an addional increase to fund the increased pilot wages, they raised the management fee an addional % (don't know what it was) that year and on new contracts. They got their money . . . and spent it on a HPN facility and NetJets Europe. You know, cause the pilots need to work more, if they want more pay.

 

[flyjetspeed]

Oh... and stop using Citation X's to back up G-IV/V flights. Don't you know NJI and NJA are separate companys? We have our own owners we need to fly.

WHAT? The GIV/V's have been bailing the X's out since they got here. Almost half the trips on the IV are CX rescue's and a bunch on the V, NOT the other way around. The owners get their airplane or better!