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[imacdog]

Hey I like that he's fairly conservative. His views on being undercut are wretched and most of his opinions are not based on any facts (probably more like battered wife's syndrome after working for 23 companies and being laid off a dozen times), but hey, if you say he's a real pilot at NJA, then I'll just assume one slipped through the interview cracks. BTW, enjoy those coach seats on your commutes, according the G it's keeping the company afloat.

 

[BentOver]

Sokol even gave a date that he'd do it if we didn't cave. Fortunately, he got his criminal ass fired two days before that date!

I know the Union thinks that the only reason there weren't furloughs then was because of his departure..

BUT, given the play by play following if his playbook, I find it highly doubtful, if there was ever a plan to furlough, new management wouldn't have done it also..

If a company was planning on laying off hundreds or even 50/75.. they would have a plan in place weeks, if not months , in advance.. So a simple thing like Sokol leaving, (which he was planning on doing sometime anyways) should not have changed anything in that plan.. Therefore, I do not believe furloughs were ever in the playbook then, nor do I now..

And G4...if you haven't been to recurrent since Aug. That explains why you haven't seen what I speak of, considering it all unfolded around Oct. But I still do not know how on earth you think everything is all good at NJA... The place is still shrinking and can't sell a share.

 

[CA1900]

True, it may never have been a real plan. But the threat was definitely made, whether or not G4 saw it.

 

[brokeflyer]

Recurrent was in August. We at NJI are amazed and befuddled by the "news" that comes out of the union, when we are sailing along pretty well, hoping the economy improves so we can sell more shares to owners and hire more pilots. I don't know anyone who has experienced first hand the things y'all describe.

you need to get out of the office.

your job is at risk ya know.

 

[G4dude]

I know the Union thinks that the only reason there weren't furloughs then was because of his departure..

BUT, given the play by play following if his playbook, I find it highly doubtful, if there was ever a plan to furlough, new management wouldn't have done it also..

If a company was planning on laying off hundreds or even 50/75.. they would have a plan in place weeks, if not months , in advance.. So a simple thing like Sokol leaving, (which he was planning on doing sometime anyways) should not have changed anything in that plan.. Therefore, I do not believe furloughs were ever in the playbook then, nor do I now..

And G4...if you haven't been to recurrent since Aug. That explains why you haven't seen what I speak of, considering it all unfolded around Oct. But I still do not know how on earth you think everything is all good at NJA... The place is still shrinking and can't sell a share.

If October was when this came down, that would explain a lot. I go back in January or February, so it will be interesting to see what happens, Bent. I guess this also means I actually have to pay attention in class....thereby reducing my snooze time.

 

[G4dude]

Well, your conclusions about who he is are completely wrong so by your standards, I should assume EVERYTHING else you say is wrong, right?

Ask Diesel or Wolfpack or Dirty Dingus. We all know him. He's as far from a management type as you can get. He just has a fundamentally different philosophy of life and work than you do.

I don't agree with him on everything and you apparently don't agree with him on ANYTHING. Dismissing him, or anyone else, as stupid just because you disagree is, in my view, sad.

Muchas gracias.

 

[G4dude]

Hey I like that he's fairly conservative. His views on being undercut are wretched and most of his opinions are not based on any facts (probably more like battered wife's syndrome after working for 23 companies and being laid off a dozen times), but hey, if you say he's a real pilot at NJA, then I'll just assume one slipped through the interview cracks. BTW, enjoy those coach seats on your commutes, according the G it's keeping the company afloat.

You are not too far off with the Battered Wife Syndrome, actually. My story is so bad, I have only told one person the whole thing, its too gut wrenching. Life is very good now, though. Just hope the company keeps chugging along. And I HATE the coach seats for 9.5 hour airlines, I am just willing to accept it as a pretty good cost saving measure. But I HATE it. I'm saying HATE here, a very strong word.

 

[Willy21]

If you want to trade I will let you take my place in a Feb. recurrent in CMH.

 

[fischman]

You are not too far off with the Battered Wife Syndrome, actually. My story is so bad, I have only told one person the whole thing, its too gut wrenching. Life is very good now, though. Just hope the company keeps chugging along. And I HATE the coach seats for 9.5 hour airlines, I am just willing to accept it as a pretty good cost saving measure. But I HATE it. I'm saying HATE here, a very strong word.

Want it to end? Support NJASAP. THAT is the only way.

Don't tell me that flying coach will make the company more competitive. We're talking peanuts here compared to a vast QOL improvement.

 

[gutshotdraw]

Want it to end? Support NJASAP. THAT is the only way.

Don't tell me that flying coach will make the company more competitive. We're talking peanuts here compared to a vast QOL improvement.

Sorry Fisch,

It's pretty clear nobody at NJASAP wants to expend negotiating capital on the 10 hour coach issue. We're stuck with it for about, oh, another 5-6 years by my count. Maybe longer. Supporting or not supporting NJASAP won't make a lick of difference on that score.

My advice to anybody thinking about bidding the Global? Move west first.