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[rajflyboy]

Yep, posting that career pilots at NJA deserve career wages sure makes us look bad.

Never mind with you. You are clueless.

 

[glasspilot]

Glass- I do -- but man you guys are relentless. The board acts like a pack of starving hyenas when someone throws them a "grammatical bone".

Ah, you're right. I don't know what it is but the to, too, and two thing is like nails on a chalk board with me. Maybe because that's one of the few grammar rules I actually know...

I'll try to work through it in the future.

 

[imacdog]

Never mind with you. You are clueless.

Got news for you Raj, lots of career position pilots make career position wages. It's not exactly thinking outside of the box.

 

[fischman]

Ah, you're right. I don't know what it is but the to, too, and two thing is like nails on a chalk board with me. Maybe because that's one of the few grammar rules I actually know...

I'll try to work through it in the future.

You LOOSER!!! <-------


BWAAAHAHAHAHA!!!

 

[glasspilot]

That's not nice. Leave my promiscuity out of it!

 

[KiddDynomite]

All you disgruntled FO's crack me up. I want to know how many of you used to turn your noses up at us because you were "airline" pilots and above us seatbelt folders? Guys like Raj and myself laid our junk on the line to get a good contract and then you weenies decide to come over with nothing invested. Now you have the gall to complain that you need raises and career wages. Here's some food for thought; first NJA was never concieved to be a career, times changed and we made it one. Guess what times changed again and the money is no longer out there. This company is in shrink mode and EJM is growing. Do you guys think you're going to get more when the company can shift flying over there? We're going to be lucky to keep what we have. I for one will stand my ground and never take a concession but I can sure bet there won't be much of a raise if any. Get a grip and read the writing on the wall!

 

[BentOver]

We get it...your the best...

BTW, if I recall, the '05 contract was not that good. Unless you call selling your brothers down the river with basing and pay, a good contract... 1 and only 1 reason I never applied to NJA prior to '07...I didn't want to live in TEB,DAL,LAX,or CMH (or commute 2-5 hrs.) for $40K.... later on my situation changed where I could accept an interview pre IBB.

By the time any contract is to be negotiated the economy should/will be better than today. The only reason management would be unwilling to up FO pay is that they really don't want us here long term. And definitely don't want 8-10 yr. SIC's returning from furlough when they can hire new guys and train them for the same amount of $$.

But you can bet there are going to be 500+ SIC's who will be unwilling to vote for any contract that doesn't up the pay...

Once again, very glad you don't negotiate for us.. You almost sound like a management stooge. Why not just pick up a few extended days while your at it.

 

[G4dude]

We get it...your the best...

BTW, if I recall, the '05 contract was not that good. Unless you call selling your brothers down the river with basing and pay, a good contract... 1 and only 1 reason I never applied to NJA prior to '07...I didn't want to live in TEB,DAL,LAX,or CMH (or commute 2-5 hrs.) for $40K.... later on my situation changed where I could accept an interview pre IBB.

By the time any contract is to be negotiated the economy should/will be better than today. The only reason management would be unwilling to up FO pay is that they really don't want us here long term. And definitely don't want 8-10 yr. SIC's returning from furlough when they can hire new guys and train them for the same amount of $$.

But you can bet there are going to be 500+ SIC's who will be unwilling to vote for any contract that doesn't up the pay...

Once again, very glad you don't negotiate for us.. You almost sound like a management stooge. Why not just pick up a few extended days while your at it.

I think compensation is about as high as it will ever get. Any higher, and competitors will be able to staff with equally qualified pilots at dramatically lower compensation levels, rendering NJA uncompetitive in the marketplace. Like Delta and Airtran.

 

[gunfyter]

Not if YIP Pilot's pilot shortage pans out! :beer:

 

[BentOver]

I think compensation is about as high as it will ever get. Any higher, and competitors will be able to staff with equally qualified pilots at dramatically lower compensation levels, rendering NJA uncompetitive in the marketplace. Like Delta and Airtran.

I semi-agree... I don't see any large pay increases in the future. Maybe someday later on when this down period is a really distant memory.

But I can see atleast a COLA increase after year 10 for SIC's. That's not too much to ask for.