NJA projected upgrade time

[netjetwife]

Cute kids, H25b!

 

[gunfyter]

"How long is the upgrade" is one of the most pointless questions that could be asked in this business. Things can and do change on a day to day basis. How many different places have we seen go from hiring to furlough seemingly from day to the next ??? One nice economic recession is all it will take for things to come to a screeching halt. Anyone that claims to have a good estimate is merely just pulling it out of their a$$. Some can pull it out with a bit more flair than others, but the result is still always someone's stinking wild arse guess....

Yes but ... you can estimate the BEST case based on good economic conditions....

Thats why 2 yrs is BS. 4yrs IF all goes well.

 

[h25b]

Yes but ... you can estimate the BEST case based on good economic conditions....

Thats why 2 yrs is BS. 4yrs IF all goes well.

Yes but... That would be setting yourself up for a huge disappointment... From what I have heard from the couple guys I know th ere 4 years if the planets align perfectly.

Cute kids, H25b!

They look like their mother ... My son does have my thin head of hair however, although his keeps getting thicker and mine keeps getting thinner..

 

[208starcheck]

Here is some factual info so you can decide for yourself. I have been at NJA for about 16 months and there are 250 people ahead of me. I'm in the mid 1800s and there are now about 2400 pilots. I was hoping to get a capt bid by next January but the capt bids have slowed.

Everyone has a guess about upgrade times, but it's just a guess. A major world event can change est. overnight to 6 months or 10 years. If you really want the job, upgrade times are the last thing to consider. It will happen when it happens.

Good luck

 

[Guitar Guy]

It would be interesting to count up the amount of FO's currently on the list and see how many pilots might potentially need to upgrade before a new-hire might get a captain bid. That number would have some caveats, such as bypass FO's waiting in their current fleet to upgrade (say a 2000 SIC who has no interest in the U-boat) and some retirees here who aren't interested in upgrading. And of course, if there is an uptick in retirements from NJA after the next round of bonus checks, that affects the picture, too.

I think Starcheck is essentially right - upgrade will happen when it happens. Trying to put a "good estimate" on upgrade is an exercise in futility with too many variables affecting the actual outcome.

 

[gunfyter]

Yes but... That would be setting yourself up for a huge disappointment... From what I have heard from the couple guys I know th ere 4 years if the planets align perfectly...

Hey man... I was agreeing with you on that.

 

[BenderGonzales]

At every job i've ever interviewed at I was told, "upgrade will be 5 years".

It's never been accurate.

 

[netjetwife]

The financially prudent thing to do is only take the job if you can deal with the worst case scenario. If FOs were paid decently, and after probation received a professional salary, upgrading wouldn't be such a critical question. Pilots have no control over the upgrade time, but there is a chance to have some input into wages. I encourage all of you to utilize the tools you do have at your disposal. Good Luck to Options as they head to the table and Best Wishes to Flex families as they turn in their cards. NJW