News just reported CRJ crash...

[Rogue5]

Unfortunetly the longer I fly the longer the list of pilots fallen in the line of work.

Reminds me of the introduction to Ernest Gann's "Fate is the Hunter": Simply a multiple page list of all the pilots working for all airlines who died in the line of duty.

Sad but true.

 

[efiscompmon]

Why public speculation should be limited

From the Memfrica Commercial Appeal:

Pinnacle received the plane new in May 2000. It had flown 10,161 miles and passed its 8,000-mile inspection in May with "no major findings," said Phil Reed, Pinnacle vice president of marketing.

These monkeys don't even understeand what they are writing--so let's not help them in their quest for total ignorance.

Anyone who knows the "quality" individuals at Nonconnah (DW, JY, DS, PR, and the late CS) knows that these are not nice people who are not above firing a pilot or two in order to make a point. If you talk to anyone from the airline, please make sure there is NO WAY they can be tracked down (ie--last tuesday I was in FWA for lunch and...). I suggest the format "some dude told me..."

If the "facts" being reported in the mainstream press are true involving circumstances prior to the event there are a lot of "stakeholders" with interests to protect..and not all of them are in concert with line pilots and safety in general. Let's be careful out there.

 

[Flyforyou]

Partied with Jesse a few times back in the Riddle days. Nice guy, always energetic, sad to hear of him going like this. Enjoy your eternal flight my friend...

 

[searching]

How much time / experience did the FO have? I see the Captain had 6000+ hours but I didn't see them list how much the FO had.

You have to be one of the worst human beings I have ever come accross whoever you are.

They BOTH gave it their absolute best, wether the First Officer had 600 or 6000 hours.

May their travells to the next place be peacefull.

 

[chperplt]

Which Riddle campus was Jesse at, and what years?

 

[NoBathroom]

Jesse was at the Daytona Beach campus in the late 90's.

 

[chperplt]

Thanks.. I was there from 96-01

 

[DTWFO]

I feel like I lost two of my family.............

...............They will never be forgotton

 

[filejw]

Anybody think of starting an Eletronic Book Of Condolences?There are at least two threads on this accident that mix condolences with who knows what remarks.JW

 

[othello]

Anyone wanting to know how much time/experience the FO had it will be listed in the NTSB report. He had only been online a few month and Pinnacle is know for hiring very low time FO's.

From a different pinnacle thread.
"I got hired at Pinnacle with just over 500 hours."

I have no idea how much time he had but when the NTSB official report comes out it will have a complete brake-down of both pilots flight time. TT, time in last 6mo's, time in type, exc.

Both the FDR and the CVR were recovered intact so in time we will all know how these tragic event's evolved, And learn from them.
http://www.ntsb.gov/aviation/aviation.htm

My heart goes out to their loved ones.

Everyone Fly Safe

 

[JetCapt69]

A room in heaven

As a former Express Airlines 1 employee, my heart felt condolences to the family & friends of these two gentlemen. A loss of one is a loss of many.

God Bless.

 

[manfred33]

Also would like to say that I knew Jesse and had the honor to have flown with him on a number of occasions at GA. One of the greatest guys out there and an exceptional pilot. Jesse got on at 9E after I did, and I was glad to have a chance to "fly the couch" with him while on reserve and catch up with him. Was very sad and shocked to hear that he was the capt. I'm sure Peter was a great guy too and my heart goes out to both families....

 

[a-v-8er]

How much time / experience did the FO have? I see the Captain had 6000+ hours but I didn't see them list how much the FO had.

Does this make any difference what-so-ever? This kind of thing shouldn't be discussed in this thread. I'm sure any seasoned pilot as well as any rookie would have suffered the same outcome in this one. My deepest sympathy to the friends and families involved...

 

[Airboss]

This forum just shows how much the aviation community is truly a big family.
Our hearts go out the crew and their families.

This news report talks about the CRJ's mechanical problem being related to the bleed air system.

http://www.semissourian.com/story.html$rec=148272

JEFFERSON CITY, Mo. -- A plane that plunged to a fatal crash after both of its jet engines failed had aborted a scheduled takeoff earlier in the day because of an apparent problem with a mechanical system that distributes engine heat throughout the plane.

Federal investigators said Friday evening that the regional jet affiliated with Northwest Airlines had aborted a scheduled flight Thursday from Little Rock, Ark., after an indicator light went on for its bleed-air system.

After undergoing maintenance, the 50-seat Pinnacle Airlines plane was being flown without passengers to Minneapolis when its engines failed and it crashed late Thursday night into a residential area in Missouri's capital city, killing the two pilots. No residents were hurt.

 

[LegacyDriver]

Is this the first ever Regional Jet fatal accident?

Terrible news...

*Thinks of his friends at Pinnacle*

 

[fuzzy077]

Jesse was one of the nicest guys I have ever met. It was a pleasure knowing him.

 

[Jack Mahogoff]

Our deepest sympaties from your fellow aviators at Chautauqua Airlines.


You are in my prayers and may God bless you all.

 

[flynryan15]

High Flight

Oh, I hve slipped the surly bonds of earth
And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings.

Sunward I've climbed, and pointed the tumbling mirth
Of sun-split clouds--and done a hundred things

You have not dreamed of--wheeled and swoard and swung
High in the sunlight silence. Hov'ring there.

I've chased the shouting and wind along, and flung My eager craft through foothills halls of air.

Up, up the long, delirious, burning blue
I've topped the windswept heighs with easy grace

Where never lark, or even eagle flew.
And, while with silent, lifting mind I've trod

The high untrespassed sanctity of space,
Put out my hand, and touched the face of
God

John Gillespie Magee Jr.


You and you family's are in my prayers my fellow aviators

 

[Airboss]

CRJ Crash

Is this the first ever Regional Jet fatal accident?

No, there was a fatal CRJ crash when the aircraft was flight testing.
My understanding is that the pilots were doing full stall tests.
The aircraft was fitted with a drag (anti spin) chute.
There are 2 levers for the chute: one to deploy the drag chute (to get out of the spin/stall), and one to releast the chute from the airplane.
The story I heard was that after the crew entered the stall, one of the pilots pulled the release handle instead of the deploy handle.

 

[NK_FA]

This hits close to home since my first flight attendant job was airlink, although XJ still it was Airlink. yeah it was 6 years ago I worked there but its still emotional for me....I'm sure I speak on behalf of all the employeed of Spirit Airlines, our thought and prayes are with the families of the captain and first officer.......may they rest in peace

I know this is a pilot site, but I couldnt help but post about his......This saddens me very much... I could have been any of us