Newest Boyd prediction

[mrvmo]

:bawling::bawling: :bawling: :bawling: :bawling: :bawling: :bawling: :bawling: That's it kid, get it all out!

 

[JetFumes]

Holy Cow! Everyone here is a guru! Now time for some positive thoughts. There should be room for SWA and JetBlue, there is not a lot of overlap now as it is. All the current legacy carriers will probably survive, after some consolidation. We will all still have jobs, right? What will you guys bicker about then?

 

[YourPilotFriend]

Why don't they shed aircraft debt to lower cost ATA and drive that bankrupt. Oh yeah that's the plan isn't it? ATA will fly the international routes and don't be surprised if they show up with the 100 seaters.

 

[conman]

one step ahead of them with the E-190.

Truck Driver,

What is with the infatuation of the EMB-190?????? It is a 100 seat jet with seat-back tv's. Maybe JB has strippers as FA's!!! There is nothing magical about this airplane except it pays alot less than most airlines operating 100 seat aircraft. When your every day pax books a flight form A-B they look at price, price, price. The question we as pilots have to ask ourselves is how low will you go to fly jets???? Aparently the bar is still too high!!!!

 

[conman]

mainline SWA will go to SKYW or CHQ. It will be lots cheaper to hire a regional carrier to do the work than to do it in-house.

Truckdriver,

Show me a stand alone rj operator that is profitable on its own and I'll buy you a beer. Southwest is a sleepin giant. I don't think the Dave and Dave show want to piss them off right now.

 

[GuppyWN]

As far as selling the 5 jets, I don't know what the motive was but have you ever heard the phrase "shrinking to profitability"? To all you blue guys I don't mean this as a slam, just an angle of discussion.

Back on topic, I think someone hijacked Boyd's computer. I can't remember a nice thing he has ever said about Southwest. I do, however, think he's on target with this one. All the "legacy" carriers are looking overseas for profits. It's only logical that Southwest would do this as well. Where was United, Delta and AA when they were 35 years old? I think it's very safe to assume that we won't be "that little ole Texas airline" in the next 10 or 20 years.

Gup

 

[conman]

Holy Cow! Everyone here is a guru! Now time for some positive thoughts. There should be room for SWA and JetBlue, there is not a lot of overlap now as it is. All the current legacy carriers will probably survive, after some consolidation. We will all still have jobs, right? What will you guys bicker about then?

JetFumes,

Don't forget to add Virgin USA to the mix. And yes there is probably another round of consolidation among airlines. We might all still have jobs but I can promise you this it will be for alot less pay than you are making now. Afterall we love to fly, Right???? Remember FAA controllers make alot more than most airline pilots.

 

[dhampton]

If the G.O. thought 500s were working in our business model we'd have more than 25 of em.

 

[YourPilotFriend]

On the serious note.... The SWA pilots are not considering really letting SWA do a fee for departure situation with ATA. You guys realize that SWA will be selling the tickets for ATA as if it were their own routes. They will probably even paint the ATA planes in SWA livery with an operated by ATA sticker. You realize you will be the first pilots to give up widebody scope? Is it only ok as long as the ATA pilots don't make more money than you?

 

[rice]

Dangerkitty like to hear himself talk.......he is an idiot. I didn't know that any fortune 500 companies operate heavies.........must not know what a heavy is do ya?

I have no dog in this fight and I'm not even sure if it's a F500 company. But Google operates a 767.

 

[DIAMONDDD]

All the current legacy carriers will probably survive, after some consolidation. We will all still have jobs, right? What will you guys bicker about then?

Easy, seniority integration methodology.

 

[lowecur]

Mike Boyd AKA Lowecur

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Been saying this for years, Mike!!!! Let me know when you're checks in the mail for consulting work.

Look for this to be part of the TA discussions in Sept.

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[J32driver]

As far as selling the 5 jets, I don't know what the motive was but have you ever heard the phrase "shrinking to profitability"?

Except we aren't shrinking. We are growing the 320 fleet by 7 airframes instead of the 12 that was originally planned.

 

[FlyBoeingJets]

I say SWA is going to hire a regional carrier to fly 70-100 seaters for them and the future jobs of mainline SWA will go to SKYW or CHQ. It will be lots cheaper to hire a regional carrier to do the work than to do it in-house. I also predict pay-cuts for SWA pilots when the fuel hedges run out. Because once the fuel hedges run out at SWA it's all downhill from there. They'll go out of business once they have to start paying for fuel.

Mr. Airline Pilot SWA hater JetBlue wannabe airline business expert flame baiter.....Budweiser salutes you!!!

 

[Blue Dude]

Except we aren't shrinking. We are growing the 320 fleet by 7 airframes instead of the 12 that was originally planned.

We were originally scheduled for 16 A320's in 2006. We will instead net 11. That's not "shrinking" by any definition, unless you're in Congress.

 

[HalinTexas]

The New Boeing 737-900ER ?

The 737-900ER is a short-to-medium range twinjet that increases the capability of the Next-Generation 737 family. It was launched on July 18, 2005 , with an order for 30 airplanes from Lion Air. The exterior dimensions of the new 737-900ER are identical to the 737-900. Aerodynamic and structural changes allow the 737-900ER to carry more passengers and fly farther than the 737-900. Entry into service is scheduled for the first half of 2007.
Major Changes

• An extra pair of exit doors, aft of the wings
• A two-position tail skid
• A flat rear pressure bulkhead
• Wing strengthening changes
• Enhancements to the leading and trailing edge flap systems
• Up to two optional auxiliary fuel tanks
• Optional Blended Winglets

Benefits

• Carries 26 more passengers than the 737-900, up to 215 passengers in a single-class configuration
• Flies about 500 nautical miles farther, up to 3,200 nm (5,925 km)
• Weighs more than 10,000 pounds (4,536 kgs) less than the A321.
• Has lower operating costs than the A321; about 9 percent lower per trip, and 7 percent lower per seat.

Does it have a RAT/HMG? How big are the engines? Can it take a full load of people (215) and cargo and fly 10 hours? Hope they put a bigger horizontal stab on it, too.

 

[temcgrew]

Comments from the SW people at the pilot open house were along the lines of this, growth cannot happen fast enough because they cannot find enough 737's on the market. How long before the 7E7 comes along?

 

[Aplus9]

I agree..

Back on topic, I think someone hijacked Boyd's computer. I can't remember a nice thing he has ever said about Southwest.

Gup

I must say, the thought of SWA total domination of domestic air traffic gives me goose bumps. Let the others duke it out for the overwater travelers. We just want the U.S., what's wrong with that?

 

[FlyAuburn]

So back to the original topic before it turned into a childish "mine is bigger than yours" discussion. Boyd never mentioned a name, right? Could it be that new LCC carrier that's in the plans? Skybus? something like that, right? I know that an ex SWA chief pilot or ex VP is involved, among others. They are saying that it will bring a new standard to pilot pay. That's right my JB basher friends - you will have a new kid in town to pick on. Why in the world someone would try to start up an airline with these fuel prices is beyond me, but it's happening. My friend was offered a non-pilot position with them, but "it" turned it down.

:beer:

 

[Dangerkitty]

So back to the original topic before it turned into a childish "mine is bigger than yours" discussion. Boyd never mentioned a name, right? Could it be that new LCC carrier that's in the plans? Skybus? something like that, right? I know that an ex SWA chief pilot or ex VP is involved, among others. They are saying that it will bring a new standard to pilot pay. That's right my JB basher friends - you will have a new kid in town to pick on. Why in the world someone would try to start up an airline with these fuel prices is beyond me, but it's happening. My friend was offered a non-pilot position with them, but "it" turned it down.

:beer:

Please re-read the article. He states it is Southwest plain as day.