New FAA rules....tidbits

[waveflyer]

Why? I continue to vote against Dems because they stole my vote in 2000 (FLA "disenfranchised" absentee voter). Many of us also vote Republican because we don't want Socialistic policies and there's no other alternative.

Last fall one of my FOs was telling me how I should vote for Obama from the labor perspective. I looked at him and said: "F--- my job, I'm voting to save the country." I'll continue to do so and it looks like the public is finally waking up to November's huge mistake.

And the country was doing so well too.... you're an idiot. And on behalf of all proud airline pilots who actually think they are worth something- thank you for F---ing our job. Because that's EXACTLY what you do. There's no argument- patriotic or otherwise to vote republican. Some conservative values have merit- but Republican's sold out a LONG time ago.

And if that makes me a blue v red guy- so be it= stop burying your head in the sand about why we've suffered so much the past 10 years.

 

[waveflyer]

Most likely if it adds to the present pilot list to do the same amount of flying, then that will raise the cost of tickets, which will reduce the number tickets purchased, which will result in fewer flight and fewer Captain and fewer yet F/O's. Like anything that adds cost to an airline, he reduces seats sold. Like many things it will be good for a few and not so good for many more. Or the other side is the same amount of pilots doing less flying, more timer in hotels on road and getting fewer hours per month. Adam Smith figured it out about 240 years ago.

have you ever read the Wealth of Nations?

 

[ThreeGreens]

Do you guys think that with these new changes, we might end up with less days off a month, or simply inefficient schedules ? That might make it worse for commuters.
Don't get me wrong I am still for safety first. Just looking at the side effects on our lives.

 

[Fly4hire]

Do you guys think that with these new changes, we might end up with less days off a month, or simply inefficient schedules ? That might make it worse for commuters.
Don't get me wrong I am still for safety first. Just looking at the side effects on our lives.

Agreed. We'll see several weaker regionals go TU which will help with the capacity cuts the mainlines need, as well as driving the cost equation in favor of reversing Scope back towards the mainline, pilots hired and recalled, but predict we will see either more days at work or less hours with a larger pilot group. Still a win when you weigh in the pro/con's. Too bad there was no discussion of programmed "napping" in the cockpit.

 

[deadstick]

I can see the max price increase of $13-15, but don't forget that many travelers spend 4 hours on travelocity to save a buck. So if one airline has to raise the price by $15, and another by $13, the first one just lost a sale. I think government fees may also be increasing. This combined with the increased operating costs may reduce the demand.

Just some thoughts, and I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night, either.

 

[Papa Woody]

Just because the FAA doesn't make rules on commuting doesn' mean the company won't make it's own rules.

Good point.

But when a company has to lower hiring standards to attract pilots who agree to live in, say, Atlanta or some other undesirable place, they will have a hard time attracting applicants. ESPECIALLY the puppy mills with ultra-low wages.

Newark, as we know it, would be unviable as a hub without commuters.

Atlanta would wither.

JFK.......HAhahahaha!

 

[slaquer5]

I had a long conversation with a member that is helping write the new FAA rules for duty, flying time etc. He said that what they are drafting is going to happen and very quickly. He said they have already heard from large numbers in Congress who are very unhappy about the Cologan accident! They want change and not tired pilots. Here is some of the things he shared with me:

1. Commuters don't have anything to worry about. They know they cannot track where people live or commute from.

I take it he has never hear of CASS, or a computer.

 

[NEDude]

I take it he has never hear of CASS, or a computer.

The problem is that does a person ALWAYS commute from the same place - in a different town to see a girlfriend or family member? If there is a seat available in the back, does the agent ALWAYS run a CASS check? Does a person always fly to commute, or could they be driving 4 hours before a report? Could a pilot be giving crashpad address to the company as his "official" place of residence? You cannot track or regulate every aspect of a pilots life.

 

[pilotyip]

Sure did

have you ever read the Wealth of Nations?

Yes, great book, recommended by my Mirco Econ Prof., I loved the part where he said, "Barristers and Clergy are parasites upon an economy"

 

[pilotyip]

The customer make choices

If you do you are idiots. PASS ON THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS TO THE CUSTOMER. It's simple logic. Hell, you've spent the last 100 years trying to figure out a way to screw employees out of every penny you can, why not apply some of that screwing knowledge to your business venture instead of furloughing 147 pilots that will save you at best $10 million bucks in A F-ING YEAR??? (See previous thread for the 5th grade math on that conclusion). It's so frustrating to read such stupidity.

When you pass it along to the customer, some customers will make the choice not to fly, even at $13 increase. In the end the consumer determines what price a seat will sell for, without sales you don't fill the seats. My wife was a frequent user of SWA, used them all the time. When the SWA TA failed in the spring, the one way DTW-ABQ doubled for advance purchases. I mean six months in advance, went from $99 to $199. She could find cheaper fares at AAL, NWA, Frontier, and CAL. Within two weeks the fares were down to $159, then two weeks later down to $129, now they are down to $99 again. It looks like SWA tried to raise fares and saw significant drop in booking to fill those otherwise empty seats on those Tue, Wed and Sat flights. Again if you have the answers it is your duty to come into management and save the industry. BTW I never siad I was smarter than a 5th grader or that I could speell.