New FAA rules....tidbits

[hawkerjock]

Very rough numbers from the FAA 2009-2025 forecast:
Hull's ----------------2008------2009------2010-----2011------2012

mainline AC ---------3743-------3365-----3587------3716-----3823
cargo (jets) ---------949-------943-------955------981------1009
regional jet+tprop ---2582------2329---- 2426------2451 ----- 2513
corporate jets-------11400-----12325-----13155----13945-----14710
corporate tprops ----9600------9665------9740------9860-----10015
pilots req ----------132,514----127,982---133,886---138,414---142,608
pilots w atp's ------146,838---147,650----148,400---149,100---149,700
difference ----------14,324----19,668----14,514-----10959------7,092
% unemployed -------9.7%-----13.3%----9.8%--------7.4%-----4.7%

2012 is going to be a good year (as long as no 1000 variables happen)

If the 121 group require 10-15% more pilots that will etc etc.....

 

[CapnVegetto]

question......is this going to affect 135 in any way shape or form?

 

[Hugh Johnson]

Nice try. Never happen.

 

[zonker]

This is a dream list. This is what should be done, not what will be done.

When you read about "Big Labor" in the WSJ editorial page... this list is why they use those sort of ridiculous terms. Labor hasn't had power for over thirty years.

They intend on keeping that power.

 

[waveflyer]

Right- and why doesn't labor have power?

Maybe we should look in the mirror and figure out why our peers vote republican 70% of the time when they do not value us in any way. We disenfranchise ourselves.

 

[SteelerMan]

I have heard the opposite on commutting, the new regs are aiming at requiring pilots to be in base 8 hours prior to trip

Requiring us to be in base 8 hours prior to a trip would actually contribute to the problem in some cases. 1800 show, now you have to commute in early in the day to sit around the airport waiting to fly, that won't work.

 

[scoreboardII]

well of course they want to adopt the CAA rules, thats so when they release cabatoge and start letting Third Country National airlines fly all our routes for 1/5th the pay, they will already have the same rules...

 

[CatfishVT9]

Right- and why doesn't labor have power?

Maybe we should look in the mirror and figure out why our peers vote republican 70% of the time when they do not value us in any way. We disenfranchise ourselves.

Why? I continue to vote against Dems because they stole my vote in 2000 (FLA "disenfranchised" absentee voter). Many of us also vote Republican because we don't want Socialistic policies and there's no other alternative.

Last fall one of my FOs was telling me how I should vote for Obama from the labor perspective. I looked at him and said: "F--- my job, I'm voting to save the country." I'll continue to do so and it looks like the public is finally waking up to November's huge mistake.

 

[ImbracableCrunk]

And here comes the red vs. blue guys to ruin the thread. Yay.

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

For all the naysayers about these regs: If Congress wants it, it will happen. Congress owns the FAA, and they have a LOT of power. That is why the Age 65 change happened so quickly. Congress TOLD the FAA what the new rule would be, and that was that.

I hope that the rules go through...the only problem will be the ATA lobbying Congress...to what effect? I think the -121 supplemental operators MAY be able to get themselves exempted. I hope not!!!

Cliff
NBO
PS-I am flying now using Kenyan CAA Internationl rules..highlights:
11 hours MINIMUM crew rest. No exceptions.
160 MAX DUTY TIME LIMIT in 28 days (for ALL Kenyan pilots, not just Intntl).
Max Duty Day 15 hours...but NO flight time limits.