New Emirates order....

[General Lee]

Well it seems you confirmed Gillegan's observation General Sherman.

By the way. If you're curious as to why I don't call you by your chosen username, it is because I believe you have more in common with General William Tecumseh Sherman. Just like he left a trail of scorched earth and destruction in his infamous "March to the Sea", you troll through these forums and destroy any chance of an adult, enlightening discussion to the issues which affect us all.

Then again, General Robert E. Lee did lose, so maybe that username is appropriate.

Of course you don't know why I chose the name. It's the car from the "Dukes of Hazard", not the famous General. Listen Professor Dumbledore, you are free to use the ignore function on this website, heck anyone can. If you can't handle the debate or provide any of your own, then throw on the ignore. It's simple, and it will prove my point about you. Have fun researching history on Google, goodaye!


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

To answer your questions one at a time - and none if this is spin - I'll give you them warts and all.

DECs - I detest the policy but would never hold it against the individual I was flying with including DAL DECS I flew with when I was an FO.

BIDDING - I have never worked at an airline where I got 'exactly' what I wanted. If you have that after 17 years, I'm envious - you earned it. BUT our bidding system does not relegate the jnr pilot to endless years of RSV. Every five months you are 'top bid' the second top then mid bid etc. What this means is that in your two top bid months you generally get what you want and in mid to lower bid groups it's a crapshoot. It means that you at least will be senior in your award to 80% (60%, and on down as the months changes)of the rest of the guys every six months. The system has changed recently and I had the old system down to a T. I'm just figuring out the new and I've been told it's changing again. That said my roster as a 777 always has great variety and I rarely don't open up the award and go 'great'. Our route network is unparalleled. The 330 guys - disaster. India T/As

SURRENDERING PASSPORTS. I have no idea what you are talking about. You give your passport to Visa authorities for two days every three years to get the new stamp - the same as when you renew your passport at the US Embassy. Other than that total BS

PROFIT SHARE CONTROL- absolutely true - we have no control and serve at the discretion of mgt. Since May of 2007 I have had 29 weeks of profit share and a 32.5% increase in salary (that's not including the big jump you get when you upgrade )

ASKING PERMISSION TO MARRY: LOL, Complete and utter crap. Can't speak for other places - let's stick to Dubai.

BIDDING TO CHANGE A/C: you cannot bid to change fleets - the rule is "you get what you get and you don't pitch a fit". As operational needs arise they open certain fleets to transfer which is what is happening now. There are currently movements from LHS 777 to LHS A380 based on people wanting it and being awarded it based on seniority. But beware , I know of a class that lost a pilot due sickness the night before and they called in order of seniority the next on the list only to award it to the first to pick up the phone. This is Emirates they will not let a technicality get in the way of business, not always good for us.
When you join You may tell the recruiters: I want X or I'm not coming and let the chips fall as they may. I was told because of previous Boeing Heavy time it would be the 777. If I arrived and they changed it - tough.

GL - like you, my time here is by choice. We are unbelievably happy here. The school is great, the wife has a great job , I love the flying, there is no crime. The kids activity list is off the charts, the places we have seen by accessing from DXB have been excellent. The social life is almost too much - beers & barbies all the time....the nightlife/foodie scene in DXB for those interested is world class...BUT

I am not saying it's for everyone...we have certainly have issues over here to complain about...as do all pilot groups. But that's our business...and yours is yours. There is this non-stop knee jerk defensiveness from you and your lot that seeks to justify your decisions in life by criticizing others should you perceive they enjoy a 'gain' over you...you have done it with all the others SWA, AA, AirTran, regionals etc...it dilutes any credibility that some of your posts. have.

You just have to stop telling us our lot in life is bad. Our work rules are not like yours ....BUT however neither is our career progression...to each their own.

The center of global aviation has shifted...it just so happens that we timed it well over here ....when the next shift occurs ...I'm following it, until then I'm enjoying a helluva ride.

You are happy I am happy....but if you attack EK pilots - then prepare for a response...

fv

Good honest post Fare....

 

[Varmint]

Close but no cigar..,

You can say whatever you want but as a committee volunteer for a union I am very aware of what happens at many ALPA properties,
After all we help local MECs and pilots ..,

We ask about jobs , we provide info and connect pilots with others.

I work with many MECs and most likely your previous airlines MEC

We are not going to let you Upgrade at 32 on the 777 on the backs of many American pilots.
Try expand on the other Continent

The 3 ME airlines are not welcome in the states.

Your not going to LET me upgrade? I hate to tell this to you slick but its already happened and will continue happening for others. Your blow hard ALPA smack talk is just talk....all talk and no bite. If ALPA allows an individual with your low level of intelligence to volunteer, I am proud not to be involved anymore.

If EK is not welcome in the states why did they just announce Boston and QR announced MIA and ATL. BOS even paid EK extra money for them to start service there.

Enjoy Mesa......

 

[Whip Whitaker]

So Sniper. Your posting history is pretty varied. Who DO you work for? Delta? UAL? Mesa? NASA? Greyhound?

 

[flyboyike]

After all we help local MECs and pilots ..,

Since when?

 

[Dan Roman]

So Sniper. Your posting history is pretty varied. Who DO you work for? Delta? UAL? Mesa? NASA? Greyhound?

We had a pilot, log gone now, that was a pathological liar. Amazing stories and all over the place like Sniper. Just the other day I was talking with a friend from FedEx. They had one too. We laughed at how similar the pattern of lies were between these two. They are out there and some are sitting in the cockpit of airliners. Everyone knew who they were and of course they had zero credibility.
Sniper, get some help dude. When you make up crap no one believes you. No one really thinks "Delta doesn't hire EK pilots" When you say things like that people just know you are someone that will say anything regardless of how true it is.

 

[General Lee]

To answer your questions one at a time - and none if this is spin - I'll give you them warts and all.

DECs - I detest the policy but would never hold it against the individual I was flying with including DAL DECS I flew with when I was an FO.

BIDDING - I have never worked at an airline where I got 'exactly' what I wanted. If you have that after 17 years, I'm envious - you earned it. BUT our bidding system does not relegate the jnr pilot to endless years of RSV. Every five months you are 'top bid' the second top then mid bid etc. What this means is that in your two top bid months you generally get what you want and in mid to lower bid groups it's a crapshoot. It means that you at least will be senior in your award to 80% (60%, and on down as the months changes)of the rest of the guys every six months. The system has changed recently and I had the old system down to a T. I'm just figuring out the new and I've been told it's changing again. That said my roster as a 777 always has great variety and I rarely don't open up the award and go 'great'. Our route network is unparalleled. The 330 guys - disaster. India T/As

SURRENDERING PASSPORTS. I have no idea what you are talking about. You give your passport to Visa authorities for two days every three years to get the new stamp - the same as when you renew your passport at the US Embassy. Other than that total BS

PROFIT SHARE CONTROL- absolutely true - we have no control and serve at the discretion of mgt. Since May of 2007 I have had 29 weeks of profit share and a 32.5% increase in salary (that's not including the big jump you get when you upgrade )

ASKING PERMISSION TO MARRY: LOL, Complete and utter crap. Can't speak for other places - let's stick to Dubai.

BIDDING TO CHANGE A/C: you cannot bid to change fleets - the rule is "you get what you get and you don't pitch a fit". As operational needs arise they open certain fleets to transfer which is what is happening now. There are currently movements from LHS 777 to LHS A380 based on people wanting it and being awarded it based on seniority. But beware , I know of a class that lost a pilot due sickness the night before and they called in order of seniority the next on the list only to award it to the first to pick up the phone. This is Emirates they will not let a technicality get in the way of business, not always good for us.
When you join You may tell the recruiters: I want X or I'm not coming and let the chips fall as they may. I was told because of previous Boeing Heavy time it would be the 777. If I arrived and they changed it - tough.

GL - like you, my time here is by choice. We are unbelievably happy here. The school is great, the wife has a great job , I love the flying, there is no crime. The kids activity list is off the charts, the places we have seen by accessing from DXB have been excellent. The social life is almost too much - beers & barbies all the time....the nightlife/foodie scene in DXB for those interested is world class...BUT

I am not saying it's for everyone...we have certainly have issues over here to complain about...as do all pilot groups. But that's our business...and yours is yours. There is this non-stop knee jerk defensiveness from you and your lot that seeks to justify your decisions in life by criticizing others should you perceive they enjoy a 'gain' over you...you have done it with all the others SWA, AA, AirTran, regionals etc...it dilutes any credibility that some of your posts. have.

You just have to stop telling us our lot in life is bad. Our work rules are not like yours ....BUT however neither is our career progression...to each their own.

The center of global aviation has shifted...it just so happens that we timed it well over here ....when the next shift occurs ...I'm following it, until then I'm enjoying a helluva ride.

You are happy I am happy....but if you attack EK pilots - then prepare for a response...

fv

I agree with Bill, that was a good post. Listen, you have an interesting job over there. I'll lay off slamming your new home if you guys lay off expressing your dreams of World Domination starting with making certain US carriers your "RJ fleet." Reading stuff like that would make anyone defensive. Deal?


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[sniper]

Your not going to LET me upgrade? I hate to tell this to you slick but its already happened and will continue happening for others. Your blow hard ALPA smack talk is just talk....all talk and no bite. If ALPA allows an individual with your low level of intelligence to volunteer, I am proud not to be involved anymore.

If EK is not welcome in the states why did they just announce Boston and QR announced MIA and ATL. BOS even paid EK extra money for them to start service there.

Enjoy Mesa......

We dont want people like you either..

i am slick and you can stay there.. enjoy the sandpit but come in our house and try to displacing us is something we will not tolerate

i enjoy my job indeed and again no cigar, it is not MAG.

At thevend we will prevail and stop all 3 government subsidized Airlines, not just yours but all 3

you are not welcomed in the states, europe will follow doing the same to you .

but again you are a captain and dont care about other pilots there,,

we do care for our future pilots in the US


so Again FT3 nd koolaide drinkers--- camel for you for christmans

 

[sniper]

Since when?

always if you are compass

if not then try teamsters

 

[sniper]

We had a pilot, log gone now, that was a pathological liar. Amazing stories and all over the place like Sniper. Just the other day I was talking with a friend from FedEx. They had one too. We laughed at how similar the pattern of lies were between these two. They are out there and some are sitting in the cockpit of airliners. Everyone knew who they were and of course they had zero credibility.
Sniper, get some help dude. When you make up crap no one believes you. No one really thinks "Delta doesn't hire EK pilots" When you say things like that people just know you are someone that will say anything regardless of how true it is.

Ask the recruiters how they feel about those working at the sandpit and blasting the operation , our employees and all about the company then they ask for a job....will you hire people like that?


Surge Martin would not if you know who he was and I bet Plato would not either