New Delta Capacity Cuts

[General Lee]

GL,
Why are you not in charge over at Delta! Wow! Maybe because you spend too much time over here.

I have been asked, but I love FI so much and being management would take a lot of valuable time away from my enjoyment of this board.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[nwaredtail]

How are the 744 loads from DTW to KIK and NGO doing? Not great.

Well, NWA doesn't fly DTW-KIX direct, but for the next week = 87% load factor NRT-KIX. DTW-NGO is at 98% LF for the next 10 days. Yeah, let's cut that one.

2 flights a day to NRT from DTW? I bet that could be trimmed to one.

Average LF for next two weeks is above 96%. Yeah, that would be a good one to trim. Frickin Genious!

I think a lot of the Asia stuff will be pulled down, and the Atlantic stuff from DTW and MSP too to AMS. Do we need 4 daily flights to AMS from DTW?

There you go thinking again. We do two a day right now from DTW-AMS, all above 91% LF next two weeks. What, don't you like to make money?

DTW itself isn't doing well as a city either.

And people said you were a dumbass.....

Our "older" 767s may be the right fit on a lot of those A333 routes.

Yeah, I am sure the 30% less fuel efficient 767 will replace the 330. Absolutely!


You see General, all that chest pounding that you tried to shove in the face of the NWA folks about our crappy fleet, lack of expansion, etc is now total crap (most knew it was before). NWA runs a much leaner operation, always has. Remember, RA was our's first.

Again,hoping for no furloughs.

 

[redflyer65]

Oh Snap!!

I can't believe the General tried to spin the 'we haven't grown that much internationally' crap. You've got to be kidding me, right?

So basically he's blaming Northwest now....

 

[Cobra17]

That is true. Seniority is good during rough times.

Bye Bye--General Lee

Your concern for others is touching.

 

[avrodriver]

While there still might be some right-sizing of equipment to routes to make sure flights are not only full, but maximizing their profit potential I'd have to agree that NWA has always been extremely savy in regards to how they run their operation.

In the end I think it's all going to get a overhaul...no need to keep singling out one sides operation verses the others anymore...we're merged remember?

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Lots of good stuff or bad stuff post SOC?

Better than this!

Only thing that I really did not like is that we were off by a billion in our non-restricted cash reserves. It will be up next quarter, but that basically told me that we had a really high burn rate on our cash with the fuel hedges.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

While there still might be some right-sizing of equipment to routes to make sure flights are not only full, but maximizing their profit potential I'd have to agree that NWA has always been extremely savy in regards to how they run their operation.

In the end I think it's all going to get a overhaul...no need to keep singling out one sides operation verses the others anymore...we're merged remember?

People do not care except that little caveat that Bloch put in the arbitrated settlement. Furloughs will come off the premerger list prior to SOC. That one can bite a lot of people that are safe post SOC.

 

[nwaredtail]

Better than this!

Only thing that I really did not like is that we were off by a billion in our non-restricted cash reserves. It will be up next quarter, but that basically told me that we had a really high burn rate on our cash with the fuel hedges.

What's 1.6 billion in one quarter among friends? 18 million per day baby. remember "synergies".

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Oh I know. But even that burn rate scares me.
I will be quite interested to see what our 8K states at the end of the second quarter.

 

[avrodriver]

People do not care except that little caveat that Bloch put in the arbitrated settlement. Furloughs will come off the premerger list prior to SOC. That one can bite a lot of people that are safe post SO.

Yeah I was more addressing the General's post on NWA stuff needing to be pulled down (NWA bad) while DAL stuff just needs to be re-tooled (Delta good...just messing with ya general, but there is a little truth to it in regards to the tone of a lot of your posts).

I definitely agree with you that this has the potential to be a huge mess depending on exactly what is on the horizon. Without any details though I think we're just finding new reasons to "go at it" with each other again...it's probably better to sit back and wait for some actual hard facts to surface.

 

[SpauldingSmails]

I just wish they'd get on with it so I know I can start looking for a new job.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

If they take more off of one list than the other, it will get ugly.
But lets all take a step back. What and how they will do this has yet to be determined. Also, Sept is a long way off, things could be a lot better or worse by then.
FWIW they are still stating no furloughs yet. I would not see them cut anyone before fall anyway.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

I just wish they'd get on with it so I know I can start looking for a new job.

there is nothing out there. Well, not much, so keep what you have. I do know people that got jobs in China if that is your sort of thing. Personally, I will just go raise Angus Cattle to pass the time.

 

[SpauldingSmails]

there is nothing out there. Well, not much, so keep what you have. I do know people that got jobs in China if that is your sort of thing. Personally, I will just go raise Angus Cattle to pass the time.

Yeah, I know. It's hard to give "tone" on the internet. In any case, I'm planning to ride this horse into the ground.

I'll get by regardless, beside I'm not too good to go back to a "crappy" flying job if need be. Come to think of it, I had more fun at my crappy flying jobs.

 

[General Lee]

Well, NWA doesn't fly DTW-KIX direct, but for the next week = 87% load factor NRT-KIX. DTW-NGO is at 98% LF for the next 10 days. Yeah, let's cut that one.

LOAD FACTORS MEAN EVERYTHING...right. There is NO WAY those flights could be losing money, because the Load Factors are high. Why did RA say we will be cutting 12-14% in Asia?


Average LF for next two weeks is above 96%. Yeah, that would be a good one to trim. Frickin Genious!

There you go again, talking Load Factors and not yeilds. You didn't go to college, did you? Maybe NWA didn't require that. Think outside the box.



There you go thinking again. We do two a day right now from DTW-AMS, all above 91% LF next two weeks. What, don't you like to make money? Maybe not in September. And how many flights do you fly again from DTW to AMS? End of this month shows 4 flights--flights 40, 68, 36, and 48. I count 4. I stated would they need that many in SEP? Doubtful. You need to think MORE.



And people said you were a dumbass.....

Only People who don't understand my genius.




Yeah, I am sure the 30% less fuel efficient 767 will replace the 330. Absolutely! It is on the PDX NRT flight. What about the PDX AMS flight? Why would that be? Only because the A332 needs to go somewhere else? Riiight. It's called right sizing.


You see General, all that chest pounding that you tried to shove in the face of the NWA folks about our crappy fleet, lack of expansion, etc is now total crap (most knew it was before). NWA runs a much leaner operation, always has. Remember, RA was our's first.
That's great. He was your's first, just like Bastain, who runs you guys now, was our's first. Enjoy.
Again,hoping for no furloughs. Amen to that.

Ummm yeah.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

Your concern for others is touching.

Just speaking the truth. I never said anything about not caring for others. You are still a total boob.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

Oh Snap!!

I can't believe the General tried to spin the 'we haven't grown that much internationally' crap. You've got to be kidding me, right?

So basically he's blaming Northwest now....

No, NWAREDTAIL came in hypothesizing on who would be cut where... He forgot that RA stated there would be a larger cut on the Asia routes than on the Atlantic routes. A lot of our INTL expansion has come close to the US---primarily in Latin America, Caribbean, and South America, which RA stated would be increased this year. We all know the auto industry has been hit very hard all around the World, and DTW along with Japan have seen major hits. We can all make our own assumptions.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Fly4hire]

Ummm yeah.

LOAD FACTORS MEAN EVERYTHING...right. There is NO WAY those flights could be losing money, because the Load Factors are high. Why did RA say we will be cutting 12-14% in Asia?
Bye Bye--General Lee

Probably the freighters we already know about....

 

[GogglesPisano]

I just wish they'd get on with it so I know I can start looking for a new job.

There are none.

 

[clippyrip]

If they take more off of one list than the other, it will get ugly.
But lets all take a step back. What and how they will do this has yet to be determined. Also, Sept is a long way off, things could be a lot better or worse by then.
FWIW they are still stating no furloughs yet. I would not see them cut anyone before fall anyway.

If furloughs happen before SOC, they better bring NWA up to the correct staffing formula before they do it. Any other way would be BS.

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

General Lee does have a point regarding NRT, although he didn't quite hit it home. The loads are there, but they are not high yielding tickets.

 

[General Lee]

General Lee does have a point regarding NRT, although he didn't quite hit it home. The loads are there, but they are not high yielding tickets.

Sorry I couldn't quite "hit it home", but most people know that LFs mean nothing in this business. (sans Nwaredtail) I am sure LFs were great on the DC9 to Billings too, until they swapped them out with E175s.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[GOULET!]

The Delta guys might want to get ready to fly the 175s at reduced rates to BIL.

 

[Whine Lover]

"... So I can start looking for a new job."

I would suggest that at this time. And, not one that includes "Airline Pilot".

Thanks For Playing, Game Over...


YKMKR

 

[FBN0223]

The Delta guys might want to get ready to fly the 175s at reduced rates to BIL.

You can bet Delta guys and gals will be in the EMB175s soon. Unfortunately, many will not enjoy the pay cut which comes in the form of no credit for longevity and poorly negotiated base pay rates. As it stands we all drop to two-year Captains pay. I am on twelve year pay at NWA. The difference is significant:

12 year EMB175 Capt 87/hr
2 year EMB175 Capt 64/hr

The above pay rates are the reason I voted "NO" on the BK contract, which outsourced our flying and left the option of flying these aircraft, in the event of a furlough, unaffordable.

 

[SpauldingSmails]

"... So I can start looking for a new job."

I would suggest that at this time. And, not one that includes "Airline Pilot".

Thanks For Playing, Game Over...


YKMKR

Oh really!? There's no jobs out there!!?? No way! I must live in an effing cave. Remind me next time to say *sarcasm on* and *sarcasm off*, as obviously gallows humor is lost on you guys.

 

[General Lee]

The Delta guys might want to get ready to fly the 175s at reduced rates to BIL.

That's why those spots are there. The CPZ guys know that too. It's better than what happened to our guys after 9-11.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

You can bet Delta guys and gals will be in the EMB175s soon. Unfortunately, many will not enjoy the pay cut which comes in the form of no credit for longevity and poorly negotiated base pay rates. As it stands we all drop to two-year Captains pay. I am on twelve year pay at NWA. The difference is significant:

12 year EMB175 Capt 87/hr
2 year EMB175 Capt 64/hr

The above pay rates are the reason I voted "NO" on the BK contract, which outsourced our flying and left the option of flying these aircraft, in the event of a furlough, unaffordable.

Let's compare what a 2 or 3 year guy at DL or FNWA would get instead of a 12 year pilot. If you are 12 year pilot and you have to go to CPZ, there are MAJOR problems out there. I would estimate a 12 year guy should have 3000 or so pilots behind him/her. That would be really bad.....

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[crj567]

I have been asked, but I love FI so much and being management would take a lot of valuable time away from my enjoyment of this board.

Bye Bye--General Lee

I think the General has real talent for airline mgmt. Just consider his qualifications:

-He is an ass.
-He is totally pompus.
-He has absolutely no idea how the economy works, or why.
-He obviously drinks a lot-judging from the lucidity of his posts here.
-He is a total ego-maniacal sociopath.
-He molests small farm animals......

-A real straight-shooter with "upper-management written all over him."

-Gen Lee-I think we have offically figured out something you would be good at. Upper management has absolutely no requirement for knowledge, skill of any type, or a conscience.

-You would be a perfect fit!

 

[General Lee]

I think the General has real talent for airline mgmt. Just consider his qualifications:

-He is an ass.
-He is totally pompus.
-He has absolutely no idea how the economy works, or why.
-He obviously drinks a lot-judging from the lucidity of his posts here.
-He is a total ego-maniacal sociopath.
-He molests small farm animals......

-A real straight-shooter with "upper-management written all over him."

-Gen Lee-I think we have offically figured out something you would be good at. Upper management has absolutely no requirement for knowledge, skill of any type, or a conscience.

-You would be a perfect fit!

Finally, someone who knows my qualifications to the tee! And, I will hire you as my cronie----at 50 hrs pay per month at the biggest position you can currently hold. I have a list of things you will need to do, including picking up my laundry, and cleaning out my garbage can of all of my toe nail clippings. When I am not patting the other exec's back as though we all had just "conquered" the world, I will try to extend a hand to you---and point in the direction of my new Masseratii. Please put my laundry in it, and don't scratch the paint.


Bye Bye--General Lee