New Delta Capacity Cuts

[Tanker Clown]

The Genital is trying to convince you that the Titanic just has a little leak and it's good for the boat to take on a little salt water. This guy is riot.

 

[FBN0223]

-Steenland and Anderson will destroy the company if they are left in charge for a couple more years-investors and employees should be doing everything they possibly can to get rid of these guys!

Which company is Steenland in charge?

 

[nwaredtail]

]Instead of the bickering between CRJ567 and GL, perhaps we can think about how this will impact the lives of both low seniority DAL/NWA people as well as their counterparts at Compass

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Compass = sorry, not going to be too many NWA guys worrying about them. They were created as a safety net (sure they were) for the NWA pilots, now DAL as well.

NWA = Short staffed for the transition to new trip rigs, even with ANC base pull down. Also still getting some retirements. DAL will not be pulling down 747-400 flying (big $$$$) or A330 flying with the Int'l reduction. Maybe a bit of 757 to be replaced with A320/DC-9

DAL - Well, overstaffed and flying many older 767's. I predict the majority of the pulldown will affect the DAL side since NWA is such a "SMALL INT'L PRESENCE". (good to be small sometimes) The compass flowdown could be a benefit, but a very small one at that (go to work for 62/hour). Hopefully no furloughs.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Add to that, they they will want to get everything correct over here after SOC before furloughing people, unless they know that they could take 300 or so furlough them, and know that they will not need them after SOC. That my friends is the big variable here. Lots of stuff is going to happen post SOC.

 

[General Lee]

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Compass = sorry, not going to be too many NWA guys worrying about them. They were created as a safety net (sure they were) for the NWA pilots, now DAL as well.

NWA = Short staffed for the transition to new trip rigs, even with ANC base pull down. Also still getting some retirements. DAL will not be pulling down 747-400 flying (big $$$$) or A330 flying with the Int'l reduction. Maybe a bit of 757 to be replaced with A320/DC-9

DAL - Well, overstaffed and flying many older 767's. I predict the majority of the pulldown will affect the DAL side since NWA is such a "SMALL INT'L PRESENCE". (good to be small sometimes) The compass flowdown could be a benefit, but a very small one at that (go to work for 62/hour). Hopefully no furloughs.

How are the 744 loads from DTW to KIK and NGO doing? Not great. 2 flights a day to NRT from DTW? I bet that could be trimmed to one. I think a lot of the Asia stuff will be pulled down, and the Atlantic stuff from DTW and MSP too to AMS. Do we need 4 daily flights to AMS from DTW? DTW itself isn't doing well as a city either. We can trade 767ERs for 757ERs on a lot of the JFK to Europe stuff becuase they can still make it range wise. Those 767ERs will then do more Latin America and South America stuff which was mentioned in the company memo. We'll see, but everyone on here can guess where and what will be cut. Our "older" 767s may be the right fit on a lot of those A333 routes.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Mamma]

GL,
Why are you not in charge over at Delta! Wow! Maybe because you spend too much time over here.

How are the 744 loads from DTW to KIK and NGO doing? Not great. 2 flights a day to NRT from DTW? I bet that could be trimmed to one. I think a lot of the Asia stuff will be pulled down, and the Atlantic stuff from DTW and MSP too to AMS. Do we need 4 daily flights to AMS from DTW? DTW itself isn't doing well as a city either. We can trade 767ERs for 757ERs on a lot of the JFK to Europe stuff becuase they can still make it range wise. Those 767ERs will then do more Latin America and South America stuff which was mentioned in the company memo. We'll see, but everyone on here can guess where and what will be cut. Our "older" 767s may be the right fit on a lot of those A333 routes.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Griswold]

Add to that, they they will want to get everything correct over here after SOC before furloughing people, unless they know that they could take 300 or so furlough them, and know that they will not need them after SOC. That my friends is the big variable here. Lots of stuff is going to happen post SOC.

Lots of good stuff or bad stuff post SOC?

 

[flyboyike]

DTW itself isn't doing well as a city either.

Has it ever?

 

[Redmeat]

Has it ever?

Go back to the regional board. You're less likely to embarrass yourself there.

 

[Linedriver]

I agree with your points.... It really gives me no pleasure to point out how horrible this situation is, but the point I am trying to make is that your mgmt. is really screwing the place up.

Oh, come on! At least be honest - everyone can tell how this news excites you. I'm sure you would feel differently if you were junior at Delta.

 

[General Lee]

GL,
Why are you not in charge over at Delta! Wow! Maybe because you spend too much time over here.

I have been asked, but I love FI so much and being management would take a lot of valuable time away from my enjoyment of this board.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[nwaredtail]

How are the 744 loads from DTW to KIK and NGO doing? Not great.

Well, NWA doesn't fly DTW-KIX direct, but for the next week = 87% load factor NRT-KIX. DTW-NGO is at 98% LF for the next 10 days. Yeah, let's cut that one.

2 flights a day to NRT from DTW? I bet that could be trimmed to one.

Average LF for next two weeks is above 96%. Yeah, that would be a good one to trim. Frickin Genious!

I think a lot of the Asia stuff will be pulled down, and the Atlantic stuff from DTW and MSP too to AMS. Do we need 4 daily flights to AMS from DTW?

There you go thinking again. We do two a day right now from DTW-AMS, all above 91% LF next two weeks. What, don't you like to make money?

DTW itself isn't doing well as a city either.

And people said you were a dumbass.....

Our "older" 767s may be the right fit on a lot of those A333 routes.

Yeah, I am sure the 30% less fuel efficient 767 will replace the 330. Absolutely!


You see General, all that chest pounding that you tried to shove in the face of the NWA folks about our crappy fleet, lack of expansion, etc is now total crap (most knew it was before). NWA runs a much leaner operation, always has. Remember, RA was our's first.

Again,hoping for no furloughs.

 

[redflyer65]

Oh Snap!!

I can't believe the General tried to spin the 'we haven't grown that much internationally' crap. You've got to be kidding me, right?

So basically he's blaming Northwest now....

 

[Cobra17]

That is true. Seniority is good during rough times.

Bye Bye--General Lee

Your concern for others is touching.

 

[avrodriver]

While there still might be some right-sizing of equipment to routes to make sure flights are not only full, but maximizing their profit potential I'd have to agree that NWA has always been extremely savy in regards to how they run their operation.

In the end I think it's all going to get a overhaul...no need to keep singling out one sides operation verses the others anymore...we're merged remember?

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Lots of good stuff or bad stuff post SOC?

Better than this!

Only thing that I really did not like is that we were off by a billion in our non-restricted cash reserves. It will be up next quarter, but that basically told me that we had a really high burn rate on our cash with the fuel hedges.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

While there still might be some right-sizing of equipment to routes to make sure flights are not only full, but maximizing their profit potential I'd have to agree that NWA has always been extremely savy in regards to how they run their operation.

In the end I think it's all going to get a overhaul...no need to keep singling out one sides operation verses the others anymore...we're merged remember?

People do not care except that little caveat that Bloch put in the arbitrated settlement. Furloughs will come off the premerger list prior to SOC. That one can bite a lot of people that are safe post SOC.

 

[nwaredtail]

Better than this!

Only thing that I really did not like is that we were off by a billion in our non-restricted cash reserves. It will be up next quarter, but that basically told me that we had a really high burn rate on our cash with the fuel hedges.

What's 1.6 billion in one quarter among friends? 18 million per day baby. remember "synergies".

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Oh I know. But even that burn rate scares me.
I will be quite interested to see what our 8K states at the end of the second quarter.

 

[avrodriver]

People do not care except that little caveat that Bloch put in the arbitrated settlement. Furloughs will come off the premerger list prior to SOC. That one can bite a lot of people that are safe post SO.

Yeah I was more addressing the General's post on NWA stuff needing to be pulled down (NWA bad) while DAL stuff just needs to be re-tooled (Delta good...just messing with ya general, but there is a little truth to it in regards to the tone of a lot of your posts).

I definitely agree with you that this has the potential to be a huge mess depending on exactly what is on the horizon. Without any details though I think we're just finding new reasons to "go at it" with each other again...it's probably better to sit back and wait for some actual hard facts to surface.