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I have been watching CJC simply because I spent time there and have friends there. In this industry you need to have a glass is half full approach otherwise you spend too much time being bitter. OK, simple fact that everyone knows...... LIFE CAN ALWAYS BE BETTER. That is like a universal truth but how much time do you want to spend being upset about a job? A job that you CHOSE to pursue and most people at the regional level chose to do post 9/11 when it was known how ********************ty the industry was. Yes CJC pays low. Is this a surprise to anyone? Did you honestly think it was going to be some industry leading payscale? I actually thought it was going to be less. EXPECT THE WORST HOPE FOR THE BEST. It leads to less disappointment. I dont think that T-prop and jet pay are compared at all. Two different animals. There is no real industry standard. MESA Dash pilots get paid much less than CJC Saab captains for similiar aircraft. Mesaba and Eagle Captains get paid more for same aircraft. Horizon pays 6 dollars less for the Q400 than the CR700 and they are same seat capacity. Shupublwipemyassqua pays 3 dollars less for 70 seat jet than Express jet does on 50 seat jet. They also pay less than Whisky. CJC now pays 5 dollars less on a 70 seat t-prop than a 70 seat jet. As stated before Horizon pays 6 dollars less for same comparison. Yes they pay more in general but still less for same capacity. That t-prop is going to go less than 500 miles where as the jet will go halfway across country. Senior Captains that live at base and are too far too drive from EWR wont commute. Some wouldnt have commuted even if pay was abit higher. Time away from home an cost of crash pad would negate the raise. Since CJC is still mostly in Northeast a good number of pilots went there because of that. So the Q is really going to benefit the guys that are either driving distance to EWR or very short one leg commute to EWR. These will be overnights and some in Canada. Everyone should know how well scehduling handles hotel accomodations.If you are home with family everynight..... most will stay put. So look at the good. The FOs finally got more money. Who cares if it was to stop the exodus or because they care about QOL. The fact is.... there is more money for FOs. Remember this is still a job and just a job. Relax.... dont do anything to get killed in the air..... go home and bang your wife. If she isnt hot.... divorce her and marry a hot one. Even better get a hot nymph gf who makes real good money. It keeps me smiling in the darkness of the aviation industry.
 
The CRJ is faster and may have a greater range than the Q400. Pay is not just based on seats, but also on miles per hour and range.
 
Negotiating

Pay rates have nothing to do with the number of seats, cruising speed or endurance. It's all depends on the amount of negotiating power you have.

Agreed. The only way that comes is from being represented by a union then through collective bargaining. Colganites...ALPA NOW!
 
q 400's are more profitable than 50 or 70 seat rj's or they would have used 50 or 70 seat rj's. so the slice of the pie is bigger for manag ment and smaller for us pilotos.
 
Ok, ok,

a lot of pilot groups use formulas to figure out different pay for a new aircraft type especially during mid-contract. NWA, Delta, Continental, Fredex use numbers like aircraft capacity, range and speed.

Good point about negotiations, but how does an employer, and employee group figure all these numbers out. Do they negotiate every single number on those pay charts for contract year and longevity ( that would take forever) or do they come up with a formula to base it on then maybe tweak a few numbers here and there like 1st year pay for FOs!
 

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