New Colgan Pay Scale

[LanceAir]

Yup, all the current Beech pilots are screwed, why train newhires to go into an airframe on the way out, that would just increase training costs. As the airframes go, Beech pilots will transition in the order they came in, only to be seat-locked for a year and given a new 6 month training contract.....:smash:

 

[jtrain609]

Yup, all the current Beech pilots are screwed, why train newhires to go into an airframe on the way out, that would just increase training costs. As the airframes go, Beech pilots will transition in the order they came in, only to be seat-locked for a year and given a new 6 month training contract.....:smash:

If I read the memo correctly, I will be able to upgrade to Saab captain if my seniority allows for that.

If that is the case, I wouldn't have to much to complain about.

 

[LanceAir]

But,

They are probably not going to let you go until they don't need you for the Beech. They are probably going to ask you to man the sinking ship...why train new hires for the Beech, then train them again for another plane.

The only way I cant see that happening is if the Beeches are taken off line over night.....which is unlikely

You being so high in seniority probably dont have to worry much about that, but the guys on the lower half might get stuck until all the frames are gone

 

[Kaman]

I knew that the dreaded "seat-lock" was going to rear it's ugly head as soon as I read the Q-400 deal was offically announced. It's somewhat humorous that managment still insists as late as 21 Feb, "everything is fine, and nothing is changing" (too much..YEAH, RIGHT!). I am not a "naysayer" either. Things are still going to be very good for alot of folks that could care less about the Q-400 and want to live in domicile and upgrade on the SAAB. In point of fact, there are alot more opportunities on that equipment than any other at this point...CJC is HURTING badly for SAAB F/Os, so I think that many Beech F/Os with the time might very well find themselves in the left seat of the SAAB and one nice payraise. As for the low-timers on both equipment there is an opportunity to fly the "Q" as an F/O or wait out the SAAB/Beech upgrade. There is alot of speculation about the fate of the Beech. I've not heard any really firm answers, but some good theories...The best one I've heard was to keep them thru summer of 07', earn the big payday in the northeast tourist locales; HYA, ACK, BHB, RKD, MVY feeding BOS and LGA and park them all by spring of 08'.
I think that the payscale(s) were a compromise, and Colgan managment had a choice of trying to retain a higher percentage of F/Os with better pay, or sacrifice the future and pay big money on the "Q". I think that they did the right thing, BUT having said that...If indeed Colgan's pilots rise to the occasion (and they will) and kick ass operating the "Q". The pilots will want a raise in 09' at the latest. IF Colgan/Pinnacle Mgt. doesn't see this and doesn't follow thru...To hell with them, because they are cutting off their nose to spite their face for a few bucks. And, not doing the job that the stockholders are paying the board of directors to do.

 

[340SAM]

makes we wonder how many senior captains will go to the q for an extra 10 bucks an hour. Most of them live in the base they want, have a good sched and come home everynight. THats a lot to give up. I can't believe they want 3200 hrs to upgrade to the q400. That pretty much stops current saab/beech fo's from going to the q until they upgrade and do a year in the saab/beech.

Did I see the wrong paysacle I thought a 5th year captain got about $ 15 more dollars an hour. Is it true that fos can transition to the Q?

 

[BirdCatcher]

Did I see the wrong paysacle I thought a 5th year captain got about $ 15 more dollars an hour.

Actually 13.80 more, but it's only money so what's the difference? It's all good i'm going to go do my part 91 repo after being on duty for 16 hours and go to bed smiling tonight because one day i may get to fly a 70 seat turboprop below 50 seat RJ wages.

 

[Prop2Jet]

WOW 3 bucks! 75*3=225 more month!

 

[funnyman12]

I recommend that during the conference call tomorrow that Colgan pilots share their disappointment with management. Management said that we don't want to be the highest paying or the lowest paying airline and they shoot for the middle. Well this is clearly the lowest 70 seat payscale to date. We need to ask why they chose to be the lowest. Also ask why we were told a few weeks ago that we wouldn't.

 

[B-J-J Fighter]

Actually 13.80 more, but it's only money so what's the difference? It's all good i'm going to go do my part 91 repo after being on duty for 16 hours and go to bed smiling tonight because one day i may get to fly a 70 seat turboprop below 50 seat RJ wages.

LOL! Does the Colganoscopy still feel pretty good. I got where I kind of enjoyed them. Kinda like the night we slept on the couch at the FBO in IAH waiting to PT 91 repo an a/c at 4 am.

 

[rhino3040]

I just wanted to say that I'm happy for the 2nd year beech fos, this was well deserved for there hard work.

 

[GEORGE DUBYA]

3 dollar raise the company just shut up a lot of senior FO's. I am going to buy and extra gallon of gas today thanks COLGAN! COLGAN RULES!

 

[Yodafly]

Disappointing

 

[Snaab]

Would've been nice if they increased CA pay on the Saab and Beech (even by a buck or two), but I'm happy for the FOs- better than nothing. I was hoping for $55/hour 1st yr. CA pay on the Q400, but can't say I'm shocked with $52.11. With that rate now, I see a couple less senior Captains go from being home every night to EWR just to fly the Q.

For the Beech, I see them around till the last second, whenever that happens to be. I hope they can convert as many Beech bases to the Saab as possible.

 

[Ben Johnson]

Great news on the pay... For the Colgans it's a start. But now the question still looms? Do you guys like sand or lube either way start rubbing your ankles.

 

[rhino3040]

Any thoughts on the fact that they might speed up the transitions from CA beech to SAAB CA? Any rumors? Are they still going to make it mandatory for a minimum of one year in the beech before transition?