New ASA Name and Future

[p51d59]

We are playing checkers.

They are playing chess,

They play with live pieces and futures

 

[COOPERVANE]

I agree. We unfortunately work for the typical all American company where money trumps everything else, especially loyalty.

This new greed is evil and uncaring. Stockholders and bonuses are the only consideration. Employees are simply a line item on a balance sheet.

I'm getting out as soon as I can. And thanks, I won't let the door hit me in the a$$

 

[asa rat]

They are playing chess,

Or Russian Roulette.

 

[rumrnr78]

They play with live pieces and futures

Brilliant! Best 7 words posted, straight to the point!

 

[ASA_Aviator]

I normally never respond to any of the boards I read. But this one needs a response. I am a former Delta and AA, line maintenance A&P with IA and avionics tech form DFW (14yr Delta and 5yrs AA) and now an XJT /FO with five plus years. With my thirty years of aviation experience (started in 1978). It takes years of experience to be competent as both a pilot and mechanic. All aspects of the operation relate to experience as proven by operations where ever we all go. This industry has turned to ******************** due to greed and the lowest bitter. I have seen this industry decline at a rapped pace, all for greed by both management and employee groups.
For this all to change, the blinders by most employees need to come off and those that have unions need to get involved. The bean counters have taken control. It’s time to take control back.

Take control back? From whom? The changes have been brought by deregulation and the free market. So tell me, Stalin, what do you suggest?

Back in "the day" there were also fewer pilots, fewer people flying, etc. If you get your wish, we may all be out of jobs, but the jobs remaining are wonderful.

As has been said 1,000,000 times on here, be careful what you wish for.

 

[damnflyboy]

-Jet Express-

 

[JettBoii]

Skyeast Express, 12% Pay Raise, I pads in the fall

 

[centralpilot]

Anemically Staffed Airline

 

[Lilah]

Completion factor??? AYSM! Running a flight hours late may keep the CF up but doesn't say a lot about our performance now does it? Our performance and reliability just plain sucks. And it reflects on our management. They're aware of the problems but just choose to do nothing. Pitiful.

Very interesting. I have read that in a new effort for an "industry leading" CF, flights with insufficient staffing will be deferred to fall, when scheduled flight hours are reduced. ASA plans a 100% completion factor. It seems this is actually in the fine print of the contract of carriage.

"I'm sorry Sir, your flight has been delayed until October".

Lilah

 

[damnflyboy]

Just an unscientific poll--- how many of you honestly plan on leaving vs. staying with ASA/ExpressJet for the full duration of your career as everything stands (scope scale/ flying model remain the same, etc). No judgement from me because everyone has their own situation. Just curious.

 

[COOPERVANE]

Just an unscientific poll--- how many of you honestly plan on leaving vs. staying with ASA/ExpressJet for the full duration of your career as everything stands (scope scale/ flying model remain the same, etc). No judgement from me because everyone has their own situation. Just curious.

I CHOSE ASA as a permanent home just in case things didn't pan out at a major/cargo airline.

I chose ASA over offers at CHQ and Mesa despite those places offering quicker upgrades. I thought it was wiser to work for Comair/Expressjet/ASA than to chase the quick upgrade for QOL, sanity and many other reasons.

Looks like I chose poorly. The current management has driven this company so far into the ground that I don't think it will exist in a few years. No newly minted pilot in his right mind would come here. Good luck with staffing Brad and company, you made your bed.

I have seen the QOL here degrade to the point that WE are becoming the new bottom feeders. I think that is the new business model.

Que the apologist career lifers telling me to quit today.

 

[damnflyboy]

If all remains the same, I'm kicking my way out. Although, I can't say that I'm in love with any particular "Legacy".

 

[Beergut]

I CHOSE ASA as a permanent home just in case things didn't pan out at a major/cargo airline.

I chose ASA over offers at CHQ and Mesa despite those places offering quicker upgrades. I thought it was wiser to work for Comair/Expressjet/ASA than to chase the quick upgrade for QOL, sanity and many other reasons.

Looks like I chose poorly. The current management has driven this company so far into the ground that I don't think it will exist in a few years. No newly minted pilot in his right mind would come here. Good luck with staffing Brad and company, you made your bed.

I have seen the QOL here degrade to the point that WE are becoming the new bottom feeders. I think that is the new business model.

Que the apologist career lifers telling me to quit today.

You should quit today!

 

[COOPERVANE]

Ok. I walked into that one.

 

[777forever]

I CHOSE ASA as a permanent home just in case things didn't pan out at a major/cargo airline.

I chose ASA over offers at CHQ and Mesa despite those places offering quicker upgrades. I thought it was wiser to work for Comair/Expressjet/ASA than to chase the quick upgrade for QOL, sanity and many other reasons.

Looks like I chose poorly. The current management has driven this company so far into the ground that I don't think it will exist in a few years. No newly minted pilot in his right mind would come here. Good luck with staffing Brad and company, you made your bed.

I have seen the QOL here degrade to the point that WE are becoming the new bottom feeders. I think that is the new business model.

Que the apologist career lifers telling me to quit today.

Are you exaggerating? If no newly minted pilot in their right mind would come here where would they? Only better option would be to go straight to the Legacies....

 

[Clutch]

Are you exaggerating? If no newly minted pilot in their right mind would come here where would they? Only better option would be to go straight to the Legacies....

You've got some serious tunnel vision... The airlines aren't the end-all be-all of pilot jobs.. And being an rj pilot doesn't make you that important. Sorry to break it to you.

 

[JustaNumber]

The current management has driven this company so far into the ground that I don't think it will exist in a few years. No newly minted pilot in his right mind would come here. Good luck with staffing Brad and company, you made your bed.

I feel your frustration about the way things have been run around here, mainly poor/risky staffing decisions. But I think you're being a little melodramatic in saying we're doomed. The airline could easily be turned around in about 6 months, with proper hiring and a reworked contract. We could easily go back to the optimism that existed a couple of years ago. A doom-and-gloom attitude always seems to exist around contract negotiations; just hang in there.

 

[Redan]

I feel your frustration about the way things have been run around here, mainly poor/risky staffing decisions. But I think you're being a little melodramatic in saying we're doomed. The airline could easily be turned around in about 6 months, with proper hiring and a reworked contract. We could easily go back to the optimism that existed a couple of years ago. A doom-and-gloom attitude always seems to exist around contract negotiations; just hang in there.

I see your point and have heard others saying this. While the doom and gloom you mention is typically associated with negotiations, this is unfortunately not a correct assessment in this case. Our backslide and trending toward extremely poor performance and QOL predated the contract negotiations by quite some time.

 

[EV120]

So long as the check does not bounce and it is the correct amount, I could really care less what they call it. Call it "Peach Air" and we can have the peach logo that looked like a "bum" on the tail.

 

[shamrock]

The airline could easily be turned around in about 6 months, with proper hiring and a reworked contract.

I don't think our management is all too interested in exploring that option.