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You guys are lucky...I've flown with guys who have said that "striking is stupid" which leads me to believe that they'd cross. I've also heard there has been a contingent of guys tell the 2nd floor they'd cross. guys new to the 37 if you know what I mean?? I've also flown with guys who had no idea that we were furloughing/downgrading, and thought it was a great idea to build their lines to 85 hrs, and pick up VSA trips. Oh well...I'm sure glad that the "newhires" over the past four years are the problem at this airline. give me a ********************in' break!!!

Mookie
 
How about we just average what everybody else makes and take that? Sound good?

You are kidding, right? If not, grow a pair. This isn't give a little, take a little deal anymore. I'm tired of giving.
I'm fully aware of the consequences of a strike but there comes a time when one needs to stand up, even if it means losing EVERYTHING.
 
Just curious, how long have you guys been in negotiations?
Glad to hear you may be getting close. Good luck.

...and when your negotiating committee is done, can you send them to Atlanta to show ours how to work?:)
 
You are right. My apologies to Singlecoil. I missed his sarcasm. I've been a little sensitive to things lately..... you know, like flying with some koolaid drinking old farts who won't think twice about putting their young under the bus. I'm so tired of hearing these guys say, "This is it for me. I can't make what I'm making here elsewhere. You are young enough to get a job somewhere else and start over, but I can't just pick up and do that". Fortunately, they are the minority but they are out there. They've been bent over so many times that their a$$es are numb.
 
AP
Independent Alaska Air can't rule out merger
Wednesday February 18, 5:01 pm ET
By Harry R. Weber, AP Airlines Writer
Alaska Air execs say they're focused on staying independent, but can't
rule out future merger

ATLANTA (AP) -- Alaska Air Group Inc., operator of Alaska Airlines and
Horizon Air and a partner of Delta Air Lines Inc., would consider a
combination with another carrier if the right deal was proposed, but for
now is committed to its independence and isn't thinking about a merger,
executives said Wednesday.

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In a series of wide-ranging interviews with The Associated Press,
several senior executives would not say if the Seattle-based airline
operator has had merger discussions with Delta or anyone else.

But, they all said a combination is not on their radar screen right now.

"Every year there's been a rumor about who is going to buy Alaska and
here we are doing well as an independent company," said Bill Ayer, chief
executive of the parent company.

That media and investor buzz heated up after Atlanta-based Delta, the
world's biggest airline operator, and Alaska Air Group announced in
November an expanded marketing alliance. Delta and Alaska Air said they
would offer customers connecting service to more than 50 destinations
to-and-from Los Angeles, more than 70 destinations to-and-from Seattle,
more than 30 destinations to-and-from Portland, Ore., and nearly 20
destinations to-and-from San Francisco.

When fully phased in, Delta and its international partners are expected
to be the main provider to Alaska Air customers of international service
to-and-from those four U.S. cities.

Delta's chief, Richard Anderson, said at the time that he had not talked
to Ayer about a combination. Delta has not elaborated on the issue since
then.

Ayer would not say Wednesday whether there has been interest from any
airline in buying Alaska Air Group. He did say that the airline can't
close the door on the idea of a merger if one was proposed that was the
right fit for Alaska Air Group. Ayer said his company's key focus is on
its employees, its customers and its investors.

"No company can rule that out," Ayer said. "You don't know where the
world is headed."

Ayer said that Alaska Air Group enjoys being an independent carrier. "If
there is a better alternative, we will look at that alternative," he said.

Brad Tilden, president of Alaska Airlines, said the airline industry is
in a state of significant flux with demand for air travel eroding as the
U.S. economic downturn has worsened. He said his airline needs to
continue to change with the industry.

"I believe we will do that, and there is no reason at all we can't do
wonderfully as an independent entity," Tilden said.

Ben Minicucci, who handles day-to-day operations at Alaska Airlines as
its chief operating officer, said he couldn't predict what will happen
to his carrier in the future.

But, he said, "If we run the company the way we're supposed to, we'll
remain independent."

Credit Suisse analyst Daniel McKenzie said in a research note in October
that his firm had not ruled out the possibility of further merger and
acquisition activity for Delta in the future. Delta acquired Northwest
Airlines in October. He said in October that Alaska Air Group or New
York-based JetBlue Airways Corp. "remain appealing targets, both with
attractive assets and strategic positioning that would enable DAL/NWA to
better compete with what we consider is an inevitable CAL/UAUA
(Continental/United) combination sometime down the road."

The buzz about Alaska Air Group is not surprising considering its strong
stock performance relative to many other airlines. Alaska Air Group's
stock is currently trading near its 52-week high. A spokeswoman said the
company also has posted an annual profit on an adjusted basis for the
last five fiscal years, while several bigger carriers posted big losses.

Executives said Wednesday that Alaska Air Group is focused on several
customer service initiatives and is using technology to improve the
customer experience. Like other airlines, it also has been cutting
capacity to weather the economic downturn, though it has not cut as much
capacity as some other carriers.

Tilden said that despite the economic downturn, Alaska Airlines will be
increasing its advertising budget in 2009 to try to lure in customers.

He also said that while fees for services that were once free have
become an important way for his airline to generate revenue, Alaska
Airlines has been looking for the right balance.

"Our thinking is we want to charge for services that make sense for our
customers," Tilden said. "Clearly, there would be some things that would
be off limits, but I don't think I want to talk about specifics right now."
 
How many decades now has there been talk of a merger? As with everything in this industry, you can't believe it until you see it. We'll still be speculating on who's going to buy us ten years from now.
 
So what happens next if the furloughs are canceled? Where do these guys go March 2nd? What about us that got displaced? I'm about to move my car and have to grieve the expense. Can they just cancel the bid? What about the guys that wanted to move - will they be stuck? Have the downgrades started? The only thing I get from my union guy is that the unions is working on these questions....JOKE!

Baja.
 
They cancel the furloughs everyone stays where they are now. In '92 they "extended" the furlough 30 days 3 times then cancelled it.
 
In 92' were there displacements and moves planned as well. Talk about CHAOS.....How can anyone plan for anything. My house is in total turmoil!

The VERY sad thing about all of this, is that if and when we get a contract the Co won't be forgiven for their past actions. GS really F'd things up eh?

Baja.
 

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