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Don't oversimplify the situation to hourly rates only. Retirement contribution percentage, work rules, scheduling transparency, and scope plus pay rates are going to be big parts of the whole package. We don't need any Section 4 only guys this time around, we had plenty of them for the TA2 vote 3 years ago.

ABSOLUTELY... I agree 100% with your post.

I didn't address any of your points in my post because the question in this thread was specifically addressing the "payrates".

With that said now, it does NOT matter if we make $500.00 an hour if all our flying is outsourced, and the work rules have you sitting in a hotel room or at an airport and getting paid 3 hours for a weeks worth of time spent, and 2/3 of your salary is paying for your medical benefits. Also.. what about the end of the road when we retire if we have NOTHING in retirement benefits..

Big picture... big picture.... big picture.....
 
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ABSOLUTELY... I agree 100% with your post.

I didn't address any of your points in my post because the question in this thread was specifically addressing the "payrates".

With that said now, it does NOT matter if we make $500.00 an hour if all our flying is outsourced, and the work rules have you sitting in a hotel room or at an airport and getting paid 3 hours for a weeks worth of time spent, and 2/3 of your salary is paying for your medical benefits. Also.. what about the end of the road when we retire if we have NOTHING in retirement benefits..

Big picture... big picture.... big picture.....

Actually for 500 bucks an hour I might accept all the concession that you propose. As long as we get 70 hour guarantee. Lets see 500 x 70 = 35,000 per month....Not too shabby. TiC
 
Actually for 500 bucks an hour I might accept all the concession that you propose. As long as we get 70 hour guarantee. Lets see 500 x 70 = 35,000 per month....Not too shabby. TiC

Sad thing is that figure isnt too far from what they used to pay a decade aga with some slight adjustment to inflation....
 
120K in 1977 (737 UAL Capt) = 450K today.

70K in 1977 (737 UAL F/O) = 250K today.

"Read 'em and weep," as my old math teacher used to say after handing exams back to the class.
 

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