New Airtran payrates

[V1rowt8]

Can someone post the new proposed Airtran payrates? Will AT management go for these rates?

 

[V1rowt8]

I heard $88/ hr 2nd yr fo ca top out at $193. Hopefully there will be retro pay. I hope the AT pilots don't have to take this to the next level.

 

[FL717]

Captain
YR DOS DOS +1 DOS+2

1 $155.46 $160.13 $164.93

2 $156.52 $161.22 $166.06

3 $158.08 $162.82 $167.70

4 $159.63 $164.42 $169.35

5 $161.13 $165.97 $170.95

6 $162.75 $167.63 $172.66

7 $164.71 $169.65 $174.74

8 $168.22 $173.27 $178.47

9 $171.89 $177.04 $182.35

10 $176.83 $182.14 $187.60

11 $179.51 $184.89 $190.44

12 $183.31 $188.81 $194.47


First Officer
YR DOS DOS+1 DOS+2

1 $48.53 $49.99 $51.49

2 $76.47 $78.77 $81.13

3 $90.51 $93.23 $96.02

4 $99.39 $102.37 $105.45

5 $106.22 $109.40 $112.69

6 $108.98 $112.25 $115.62

7 $110.94 $114.27 $117.70

8 $112.94 $116.33 $119.82

9 $115.41 $118.87 $122.43

10 $118.94 $122.51 $126.19

11 $120.51 $124.12 $127.85

12 $123.20 $126.89 $130.70

 

[johnsonrod]

Captain
YR DOS DOS +1 DOS+2

1 $155.46 $160.13 $164.93

2 $156.52 $161.22 $166.06

3 $158.08 $162.82 $167.70

4 $159.63 $164.42 $169.35

5 $161.13 $165.97 $170.95

6 $162.75 $167.63 $172.66

7 $164.71 $169.65 $174.74

8 $168.22 $173.27 $178.47

9 $171.89 $177.04 $182.35

10 $176.83 $182.14 $187.60

11 $179.51 $184.89 $190.44

12 $183.31 $188.81 $194.47

First Officer
YR DOS DOS+1 DOS+2

1 $48.53 $49.99 $51.49

2 $76.47 $78.77 $81.13

3 $90.51 $93.23 $96.02

4 $99.39 $102.37 $105.45

5 $106.22 $109.40 $112.69

6 $108.98 $112.25 $115.62

7 $110.94 $114.27 $117.70

8 $112.94 $116.33 $119.82

9 $115.41 $118.87 $122.43

10 $118.94 $122.51 $126.19

11 $120.51 $124.12 $127.85

12 $123.20 $126.89 $130.70

Are these rates good news or bad news from the pilots' perspective? How do these rates compare to expectations? Good news or bad news? If bad news, what were you expecting?

 

[FL717]

Are these rates good news or bad news from the pilots' perspective? How do these rates compare to expectations? Good news or bad news? If bad news, what were you expecting?

I obviously can't speak for 1600+ other Pilots, but I can say that the people I have spoken to are fairly content with these rates. Alot is going to boil down to the contract proposal as a whole.

My opinion is this: I would like to see this industry get back to the rates that UAL and DAL had prior to 9-11. Regardless of what some of our peers think, $230.00 an hour as a Airline 737 Captain is NOT out of line for this Profession.

Unfortunately, with a de-regulated industry, the way things are currently, I see that number as being almost impossible, and unfortunately, unsustainable. It would take a MAJOR change in the industry business dynamic as a whole to even think that any Airline will make that salary work.

With that said.... comparing these rates to current industry top payscales for small narrowbody (i.e SWA, ALA, DAL, AMR), these rates appear to be second only to SWA.

Also... these rates when compared to the 2005 Initial proposal from the NPA rafted by M.B. and S.H., and compared to the failed 2007 TA2, these rates are light years beyond where those numbers were at.

I THANK our MEC for directing our Negotiating Committee to submit these rates, and I am counting on them to stand FIRM on these rates, and I am hoping that my fellow AirTran Pilots stand together to insist that we get these rates.

If AirTran wants to be a top rated Airline, and wants to reward the Executives with Promotions and financial rewards for their work, then I expect NO LESS.

 

[Tomct]

Good Luck guys/gals. That would be a great payscale, I hope you can make it happen.
;-)

 

[likeitis]

For the most part I think they are pretty decent. Only issue I have is I think the FO rates should increase faster to 67% of Captains pay. I think by year 4 they should be there.

 

[gt1900]

Don't plan on those rates. Its called negotiating. Ask high, and settle for less. The question will be how much less. I think those rates are pretty favorable but don't expect them to be the final rates we see. However, I don't think that they should be much less then that, because I don't think much less will pass.

 

[wood pecker]

Has anything regarding scope been mentioned? Is there a loop hole that will allow mgment to cut the rates as soon as fuel goes up 1 penny?

I smell a strike vote in the next few weeks as even the positive goody goody Captains seem pissed. Why? They did their part of saving fuel, not firing up the APU, buying coffee, climbed higher, and saved a ton of money for the company only to be called "special". Meanwhile a new VP gets $340,000.

 

[RIDETHELIGHTING]

Don't plan on those rates. Its called negotiating. Ask high, and settle for less. The question will be how much less. I think those rates are pretty favorable but don't expect them to be the final rates we see. However, I don't think that they should be much less then that, because I don't think much less will pass.

Yea i agree those rates will be comimg down. but the question is by how much.