NetJets Working on CASS Approval?

[gunfyter]

I will be very surprised if NJ does not get CrewPass. What if we want to have jumpseaters?

 

[Skippy]

We have probably hired at least 1000 furloughed 121 pilots. Thats a guess.

really? In the past , say 5-7 months?

 

[gunfyter]

Most of the furloughed pilots came after 9/11. Probably more than 200 each from Comair, Midway and Independence. Some TWA ... United ... and Northwest. Emory, Kalitta... etc..

I don't know how many of the 300 or so pilots hired in 2008 were furloughed 121. No doubt some were.

Former furloughed pilots might be the largest demographic of NJA pilots.... Either that or military.

However the word is hiring has ceased as of this month.

 

[JungleJett]

I should take a moment to see if I have a NJA pilot on board and make sure the whole crew makes him/her feel extra special.

Now we are getting somewhere!

 

[Allen1]

Good point. Don't fractionals operate under part 91? If so, there is no difference between them and other GA pilots.

Well we do a lot of part 135.

 

[Allen1]

Yeahhh...before you guys were always saying that you don't WANT to hire airline guys because they don't know how to "provide the kind of service" your company expects...now you've got 1,000 furloughs from the majors. Dream on

Dude you really are an idiot and don't know anything about NetJets. Do you have any idea how many ex 121 pilots furloughed and retired that work here? I think a thousand is a pretty conservative estimate. I'm ex 121 along with most everyone else I've flown with here is. You're a true idiot. I hold nothing against any 121 pilots and also have no interest in jumpseating. Apparently some 121 pilots have issues with us though.

 

[Scope out RJ's]

Dude you really are an idiot and don't know anything about NetJets. Do you have any idea how many ex 121 pilots furloughed and retired that work here? I think a thousand is a pretty conservative estimate. I'm ex 121 along with most everyone else I've flown with here is. You're a true idiot. I hold nothing against any 121 pilots and also have no interest in jumpseating. Apparently some 121 pilots have issues with us though.

Don't worry! Voice of reason=Voice of whining!

 

[CA1900]

... company says lets require all new pilots to live in a major airline hub, or all, that way we can begin on day one with a one leg flight to assignment.

They tried it, with paid tickets, even. It didn't work, which is why we've gone to the 100 bases. They're not airline hubs, but they're generally well-served by the airlines, which is all that really matters for our operation.

When you say, but I live in peoria, they say, too bad, jumpseat. That is in essence how the 121 world works now!

Yup. Jumping to work is one of the things I don't miss about 121! (The fact that they closed every domicile I moved to didn't help the cause... :laugh

 

[imacdog]

Some large corporate clients do care more about the operation and quite selflessly want to be part of the solution. They aren't pilots and they aren't seeking (what amounts to) extraordinarily priviledged treatment. You've been among the least attentive and dejected group of customers any airline has. And you've been that way for a long time. When you compare this to what you asking for it is really unbelievable.

The only people who should get what you're asking for should do so because they want to act out of an abundance of regard for the entire operation. You're about the furthest thing from that.

I'm about done with this thread. I don't think I've even made a dent. Airline staff is supposed to treat you NJA guys like you are their favorite plant and if you choose to treat them as a housepet that's suppose to be OK. I'm guessing that's how you're treated so you want to project it onto us. Fine. I'll remind myself that each and every flight I should take a moment to see if I have a NJA pilot on board and make sure the whole crew makes him/her feel extra special.

I like you Flopgut. Let's be friends. :beer: Your method of thinking is entirely logical and not filled with hate. It would be an honor and a priviledge to ride in the back of your airplane anytime.

 

[Flopgut]

I like you Flopgut. Let's be friends. :beer: Your method of thinking is entirely logical and not filled with hate. It would be an honor and a priviledge to ride in the back of your airplane anytime.

K. Uhhh. Not sure I was ready for that, But...Cool!! You bet!! Thank you, and likewise Sir. It would very much be a priviledge to ride on your airplane.

It would make perfect sense that NJA pilots be a known quantity in the back. That way when the PA rings and the FAs says "the passenger in 23A says something fell off the airplane", and you're the guy in 23A, we'll know we have something actionable. Which is a sharp contrast to what it usually is: a mental patient or a nine year old. (We don't write them off entirely, but they are usually unreliable)

 

[JungleJett]

I like you Flopgut. Let's be friends. :beer: Your method of thinking is entirely logical and not filled with hate. It would be an honor and a priviledge to ride in the back of your airplane anytime.

Dude...don't worry, I got it.

 

[kman]

Not saying the company would use j/s to get you to your assignment, just saying that if after you have J/S for awhile, company says lets require all new pilots to live in a major airline hub, or all, that way we can begin on day one with a one leg flight to assignment. When you say, but I live in peoria, they say, too bad, jumpseat. That is in essence how the 121 world works now!
Luv

Yes, but the airlines have hubs, we do not.

Maybe around 2012(is it 2016 now?),when are contract is up, but not likely. And there is no way they could just force people to show up unless we let it happen.

But we are off topic again, this is not about jumpseating, just cass.

 

[imacdog]

Flopgut I'm glad to see you decided not to follow through with your promise to leave this thread. Your posts are always enlightening and helpful.

 

[FO 4 Life]

Most of the furloughed pilots came after 9/11. Emory

Really? You hired them directly out of college?

BTW, the ticket agent can remove the SSSS on your boarding pass. Have you tried to ask? Not saying they will, but they can.

 

[gunfyter]

Really? You hired them directly out of college?

BTW, the ticket agent can remove the SSSS on your boarding pass. Have you tried to ask? Not saying they will, but they can.

College huh?

I guess I don't get your joke.

 

[JungleJett]

College huh?

I guess I don't get your joke.

Me either....

And the ticket agent cannot always remove the SSSS.

 

[sexybeast]

deleted...due to the request of coworkers and unintentionally arrogant tone.

 

[capt_zman]

The pilots (or most pilots) at NJ are not interested in jumpseating privileges, we have plenty of miles to get us where we want to go.

Not to be a loser, but commuting is painful enough. Another 5000 potential j/s er's with no reciprocating policy doesn't sound too interesting either.

 

[sexybeast]

Not to be a loser, but commuting is painful enough. Another 5000 potential j/s er's with no reciprocating policy doesn't sound too interesting either.

I have been there and done that...I couldn't agree more.

 

[gutshotdraw]

Not to be a loser, but commuting is painful enough. Another 5000 potential j/s er's with no reciprocating policy doesn't sound too interesting either.

ATTENTION! ATTENTION! NETJETS DOES NOT WANT ACCESS TO THE JUMPSEAT!!!!!!!

How many times do we have to say it? This is about official vetting by the TSA so that they STOP WASTING THEIR TIME double screening crewmembers that have been background checked repeatedly and POSE NO SECURITY THREAT to the system.